I had planned on making a fly reel while I was in my machining course, however I got stumped on how to make the drag system... maybe it's possible to buy a
drag assembly... I don't really know. Does anyone have any ideas that may assist me?
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 Matt Ratcliffe |
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Posts: 1 01/24/2008 09:48 |
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Posts: 70 01/24/2008 12:03 |
Take a look at an old Pflueger Medalist and copy that. I have a 1494 and 1495 DA. It is a very good basic drag system. I just looked at my reels and you should be able to do it in a machinist course. If not - just do a click and paw non adjustable one. You are lucky that to have a course available - the local schools have dropped them around here. Chris |
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Posts: 658 01/24/2008 16:03 |
Not to sound snitty but how could you get stumped on a single click pawl drag system?
Hardy Guy
Obsessed Salmon Chaser since 1988!!
www.flyfishtheisland.com |
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Larry Swearingen |
E. vom Hofe "Peerless" drag or click ? | #3 | ||
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Posts: 331 01/24/2008 19:58 |
Anybody know or have photos of a dissassembled Peerless ?
Or any of the Edward vom Hofe Salmon reels with the decorative knurled knob and lever drag ? I'm dying to know what the insides of those looked like. I have a little Julius rubber and nickel plated brass #3 and the innards are just a simple caliper check. As far as I'm concerned the Peerless is the epitome of the classic American trout reel. drool...... Larry Swearingen |
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Posts: 92 01/25/2008 00:46 |
Matt,
I agree with the others, a simple click pawl set up would be your best bet. You can buy brass spur gears from www.smallparts.com. (You could also buy steel spur gears from small parts or www.mcmaster.com, but while steel will be more durable in the long run, brass will be lower maintenance.) Determine what size gear you want by looking at a few other reels and buy your gear first. Design the rest of the set up around that. Larry, If you're referring to the modern Peerless reels I've had a 2A open, but I didn't get any pictures of the innards. Very elegant system. Though I didn't get any pictures, I did measure everything and draw it up in my 3D CAD program. PM me with your email address and I'll send you a rendering. Mark |
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Posts: 1 01/25/2008 13:58 |
Larry
Excellent "innard" pic's can be found here for the EVH's http://perfectionflyreel.com/ .If that ain't good enough I could open up a Tobique for ya and post here Cheers |
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Larry Swearingen |
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Posts: 333 01/25/2008 20:44 |
Hi Brian,
Thanks for the link. Hard to tell what's going on there though. I see the parts but can't make out how they fit together. I'd love to see your Tobique's Innards ! Larry |
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Posts: 2 01/26/2008 08:17 |
Hardy Guy, simple... I have no idea what that is and I don't fly fish (so I've never seen one). I was gonna make my dad a gift.
As for everyone else, thank you so much for the replies!  Is it possible to make it adjustable?
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Posts: 37 02/01/2008 17:57 |
Larry,,Matt.....forget the VomH drag for your first attempt...I have restored quite a few VH's and Zwargs over the years and those spring drags are a
nightmare to get right......Horsesho has it right..stick with a simple click and pawl drag....plus the main thrust bearing is not a part thats easy to
make...it's one of the 2 reasons it's not easy to reverse one of those old classics to LHW..(the other is the opposite threaded reel handle spindle
that also needs to be reversed)...I did it once..and believe me,,once is enough....stick with tried and true and simple..click and pawl for a trout reel.....a
salmon reel is a different story.....rm
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Larry Swearingen |
EvH Patents | #9 | ||
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Posts: 336 02/03/2008 14:33 |
Hi Danny,
Thank you for posting those patent drawings. I wasn't aware that anyone had patented the "Caliper-style spring" drag. It's seems to have been used on a LOT of different maufacturer's cheap reels. Larry Swearingen |
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Posts: 3 02/06/2008 09:39 |
reelmaker, "a salmon reel is a different story..."
Actually, my father and grandpa both fish Atlantic Salmon on the Gaspe coast of Quebec... Would I still be in over my head to attempt making a reel for them? 
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Posts: 290 02/08/2008 18:19 |
Brian Sturrock wrote: Hi all! Would be very interesting indeed to know, who actually took the fotos shown there! There`s no credit! |
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Hardy Guy |
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Posts: 672 02/11/2008 08:11 |
Well matt,, a simple clarification of your lack of flyreels was all one needed to say. My apologies for stating the obvious in a manner i thought wouldn't
ruffle any(yours) feathers.
Good luck with your project. Hardy Guy
Obsessed Salmon Chaser since 1988!!
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Posts: 8 02/20/2008 13:55 |
Mark,
I shuold like to see those 3D drawings. Do you think this system is better than mine? You have my e-mail ddress. Ingvar |
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Mark Shamburg |
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Posts: 107 02/22/2008 14:03 |
Ingvar,
That's a difficult comparison to make. Your fixed check is a simple and elegant system, theirs is an adjustable drag. If adjustability is important to you, the peerless system is a very nice solution. I'll PM the drawings. Mark |
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Posts: 123 02/22/2008 19:54 |
Larry and others
check this link http://www.uspto.gov/patft/ and enter pat no 563964. It will not only show you what is in the Vom Hofe it will explane how it works. fishbum |
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fishugo |
The World's Simplest Drag | #16 | ||
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Posts: 18 03/07/2008 17:40 |
Matt-- there is a Farlow reel in England named "the Barret" that has the simplest variable drag ever made.
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Eebarral |
EVH Peerless Guts. | #17 | ||
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Posts: 5 03/12/2008 20:44 |
The classic drag on an EVH Peerless is quite simple: A spring bronze bar with leather pads the press against the inside of the spool face 
If it was up to me to do it all over again I'd go with a scaled down Bogdan or Noel design if you must have an adjustable drag. 
Hope this helps. Jon
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Posts: 268 08/31/2008 04:44 |
Not being a reelmaker, I guess I´m suffering from a typing itch right now... My two Swedish Crowns: I´m very dedicated to the Medalist drag system when it comes to reels that would benefit from a drag other that a click n´pawn design, that works well for most trout fishing. I can´t help thinking about the Bogdan drag as a "modified double Medalist design" and I think that stuff is really working. My old beat up, 75 year old 1494 has caught alot of fish, seen the elements for 3/4 of a decade and God knowns how many turns on the handle it seen. And it still only wants som lube every once in a while. Sure, there is some little play here and there, but the drag is working flawlessly. There was a time I was thinking of making a reel of my own. I had it "all" figured out and there wasn´t any doubt about what drag I was going to use. Ok, off to the planing form... |
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Posts: 29 09/12/2008 12:21 |
Here is the Clicker system I designed and use on my bigger salmon reels.
It's pretty heavy duty--Stainless screws, nuts, and springs with aluminum plates. 
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Posts: 61 09/12/2008 21:32 |
SB...that drag work is most elegant and unique.... your bench made reel work looks to be of the highest handmade world caliber...we need to talk reels sometime over a glass of single malt...p |
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