Does anyone have the who, what, when, where and why of the timeless pattern?
Thanks,
Joe
Thanks,
Joe
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Royal Coachman History /Origin
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Posts: 1892 04/07/2008 19:45 Moderatus Muscae |
In Fly Patterns and Their Origins (3rd printing, 1946), Harold Hinsdill Smedley gives a long account of the origin of
the Royal Coachman... "first tied in 1878 by John Haily, who in 1877 had opened a shop at 320 Henry Street in New York City for tying flies..."
Smedley quotes extensively from a letter written in July 1885 by Charles F. Orvis to Fred Mather, explaining how a member of the Orvis family gave the otherwise nameless fly its title of "Royal Coachman." The Quack Royal Coachman is not a "quack" in the sense of being a fake or a substitute fly. Reub Cross explained that this impala-winged version of the pattern was first tied for L.Q. Quackenbush of the Beaverkill Trout Club, whose nickname was "Quack."
Quashnet's Paul H. Young Rod Database has photos and descriptions of 290 PHY Co. rods, plus catalogs, accessories,
etc. Thank you to all who continue to send me PHY rod photos and info.
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Posts: 18 04/07/2008 19:52 |
Hi Joe,
It was invented by a New Yorker named John Haily who introduced it in 1878. He remarked to a friend, " Here is a fly which is intended to be a Coachman, but it is not a true Coachman. What can I call it?" Mr. L.C. Orvis, who was present, immediately suggested that it should be called the Royal Coachman because of its fine garments, and it's been known by that name ever since. Originally was purely a wet fly, but that changed over time as everyone already knows. Regards, Mark |
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Posts: 39 06/30/2009 13:10 |
Has anyone ever put together all of the variations of the Royal Coachman? I know of the Royal Coachman, Fanwing Royal Coachman, Royal Wulff, Royal Coachman
Parachute, Royal Coachman wet, Royal Coachman wet with a marabou wing, Royal Coachman streamer, Royal Coachman streamer with a marabou wing, Royal Coachman
bucktail, Royal Trude, Wright's Royal, Royal Prince, Royal beadhead nymph. There must be more
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Posts: 2651 06/30/2009 13:58 Moderatus Muscae |
Atlantic salmon fly: the Whirlybird is a variation of the much-better-known Ingalls' Butterfly, in which the body is tied like a Royal Coachman (peacock
herl, red silk floss, peacock herl). Tail, golden pheasant tippet; wing: divided white goat hair; hackle: two turns brown hackle.
Spentwing version of the Royal Coachman dry, shown here with a spentwing Adams Egg Sac (flies from the Paul H. Young Co., early 1940's). 
Quashnet's Paul H. Young Rod Database has photos and descriptions of 465 PHY Co. rods, plus catalogs, accessories,
etc. Thank you to all who continue to send me PHY rod photos and info.
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The Orvis database by Greg Reynolds Finally available again!!
Check out the Paul Young Rod Co. database which is owned and maintained by member Robert Golder (quashnet).
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