help with rods found in the attic

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cathatwork	help with rods found in the attic		Lead	[-]
Posts: 1 05/01/2008 11:56	Tags : None Hi, I have two bamboo rods that I would like to use. One is a South Bend 346, 8 1/2 ft--that's all it says on the tube. On the rod it looks like it says E or HEH. What type of vintage reel should I be looking for? What weight of line do I need? Can I fish for trout with this rod? How about salmon? The other rod is a Wright & McGill Granger Victory Rod GV9053 Length 9 ft Weight 5 3/4 ozs. It just says Wright McGill and Granger Victory on the rod--no letters or numbers. Same questions for this one. Both look nearly new. I put them together and took them apart and didn't notice anything loose. All the string holding the eyes for the line look tight and the rods are straight. I am hoping I can use them without any "servicing" being necessary. Thanks for your help. Cathy
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jeffkn1		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1605 05/01/2008 12:24	A Pflueger Medalist 1494 will be a nice match for either of those, as would a Shakespeare Russell, either of which can be had for $30 or less these days. A DT5F should would just fine on the 346 which is not too common in that length. Don't know about the Granger but the same line may work fine on that. Clean out the female ferrules with a Qtip and just a little rubbing alcohol. Clean off the end of the male ferrules with alcohol, too. Keep doing it until the Qtip end comes out clean. Avoid getting alcohol on the rod finish since it will remove varnish. Make sure you seat the ferrules all the way when assembling the sections. Lastly, do not put those rods back in the attic. When you're done fishing return them to their tubes after wiping dry, and store the tubes in the corner of your bedroom closet, safe from moisture and temperature extremes.
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2 Bead Pupa	Granger	#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 240 05/01/2008 15:10	Your Granger is the heavyest 9 footer that they made at 5 and 3/4 ounces . I believe thar it's more suited to a 7 weight line and would work O.K. on salmon or steelhead . Nice find , by the way . Why can't I find neat stuff like that laying around my house ?
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waltryan1		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 11 05/01/2008 17:04	I use a DT 7F Cortland SYLK line on my 9053. HEH is the old designation for a DT 5
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tiethefly		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 987 05/02/2008 21:17	Cathy Jeff gave you some terrific advise, also remember when putting the rod together and taking it apart, never twist the sections. If the rod becomes stuck together use what we guys use as an aid in getting the rod apart, rubber gloves. Enjoy the South Bend it is a really nice Dry Fly taper rod and would be a nice rod to start off with. The Granger will be a bit heavy as you probably have noticed comparing it to the South Bend. Casting the granger even for 20-40 mins would be a nice work out on a stream. Robert "So I will arise and go now, to meet you there early and I hope , often." Arnold Gingrich "The Joys of Trout"
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cathatwork	reel to use with 9053	#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2 05/05/2008 10:37	Hi, What type of reel would you suggest for this rod. Would like to get vintage if possible. Thanks for any help. Cathy
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pvansch1		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3589 05/05/2008 11:04 Moderator	The Granger since it's a bit bigger and heavier would take a Pflueger 1495 or 1494 1/2. Both will hold plenty of backing and 7wt line. Some of the heavier older Hardy reels would work as well. I fing with the longer bamboo rods, balance becomes a little more critcal with the weight of casting so a heavier reel is necessary. Pete
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jeffkn1		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1610 05/06/2008 12:26	Cathy Is the body of the reel seat anodized aluminum or a plastic of some kind? Aluminum will suggest pre-WW II, and plastic post War.
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cathatwork		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3 05/06/2008 14:29	Hi, The reel seat is metal and measures about 2 3/8s inches from end of holder to end of holder when fully opened to about 1 3/4 inches when screwed down all the way. That is from the edges of the holders not including the little bump thing the reel goes under. I would like to get a reel that matches in vintage and quality--nothing too flashy as I understand this was a lower end rod from what I've read on the internet. Condition is very important as I wouldn't have a clue how to fix anything. If you could be very specific in your recommendations that would be helpful since I have very little knowledge about any of this. Thanks for your help. Cathy
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jeffkn1		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1612 05/07/2008 10:35	Cathy The Pflueger Medalists previously recommended would be both appropriate, vintage-wise, and readily available. And not only are they still in production after 80 years or so, but they're pretty bulletproof so most surviving examples need little beyond simple cleaning, if anything. OK, that's the easy part. The tough part is spotting the differences between the reels as they were revised over the years. In general, any Medalist fly reel with a metal cap in the center of the spool will be a match in age for either of the rods you have. I think of the 1495 as being a touch too heavy for your 8 ½' South Bend, though I agree it's probably a good match on the Granger. A 1495 with the metal center cap might sell for anywhere from $50-100 or slightly over. The next size down, for the South Bend, would be the 1494 ½ or the 1494. I don't recall offhand whether the 1494 ½ was made with the metal cap or not, but the 1494 was and they're around $75-150. A pragmatist would say that looks don't count for much, and would simply buy the commoner (read: lower cost) Medalists of the postwar era at less than half the price of the early ones. They're quite common in all sizes, as a quick search on ebay will prove. I have a selection on hand most of the time and if you want to send me a message outlining your preferences I'll see what I can do to help. You can also email me directly at jeffkn1 AT yahoo DOT com
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