This is a rod I picked up for a reasonable price on a popular auction site! The rod is obviously wrapped in Leonard fashion, but... other than the way
it's wrapped, that's all I see that could possibly say Leonard except... the winding check. I have a few Leonards and the winding check on this rod is
EXACTLY as those on my other Leonards.
Node spacing is 3x3x3 on all sections and the cane is of excellent cosmetic quality, and obviously a finely made rod in it's time.
Take a guess, because I just don't know. There are no stampings on the ferrules, and if you'll look at the mid female ferrule and the butt female
ferrule, they obviously don't match. The reel seat has been replaced... no stamping of any kind, but it is NS, not NPB. The tube is the neat thing about
this rod. It was mailed from Oak Park Lumber and Milling Co in Sacramento, CA to the William Mills Co, NYC, NY. The address lable is an envelope from the
Lumber Co and still has the post mark on it. Very faded, but I believe it says May 01, 31 and the postage was 41 cents... (wish we could still mail a rod for
that much!).
One last thing, the pictures aren't very representative of the wrap colors. They are black and gold jasper, not black and whatever shade of green that
appears to be in the pictures.
So, here are the pics, take a guess and help me figure out what I have here.
Thanks,
Bob
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Bob, Why do you feel the reel seat is a replacement? Nice English twist guides.
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Charlie, Well, The way it sits against the cork just doesn't look right. The rest of the rod seems to have very meticulously fitted hardware (winding
check to cork, etc.) and the fit of the reel seat against the cork just isn't the same quality fit. Now, it may have just been loose and reset and just
slipped a little when it was reset... no telling!
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Your judgment and experience certainly exceed mine. I wonder if there are any concentric circles inscribed on the butt?
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Nothing on the butt of the reel seat... just smooth. There are two knurled lines on the cork end of the reel seat and two matching knurled lines on the
receiving end of the sliding band. The rails on the reel seat are silver soldered on as is the reel foot receiver. Other than that, there's nothing
unusual or remarkable about the reel seat itself. Still, a very well made and honestly, for it's era, nice casting rod.
The tube (assuming it's the original) is not a Leonard style tube. The screw cap on it is Nickel Plated Brass as is the threaded part attached to the tube. The cap appears to be peened in place. There are 4 round "punch" marks where it was peened to the tubing. The blind end is peened on in the same fashion. The caps on the tube have a two microgrooves machined in them. Bob |
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Bob -
I can't tell too well from the pics - are the welts on the females the same? Dave
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Posts: 246 06/03/2008 18:23 |
Dave,
No, I should have mentioned that. The mid/tip ferrules look like the same on my old catskill, but the female on the butt section is different. Not sure what kind of ferrule it is, but it's a soldered on welt, NS. So, I'd say the female on the butt has definitely been replaced. Of course, that's where the patent date would be stamped if it were an older Leonard, so that takes that identifier away. The winding check is, as I said, pure Leonard, right down to the overall design of the check to the width of the knurl groove to the knurling size in the groove. Old rod does cast nice, though! 
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Could this be another Frankenrod? The reel seat kinda looks like an old Montague Redwing.
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