Does anyone have experience with this rod or his other hollow quads? I'd be interested to know what the action is like and whether it is a dead-on 4wt. or
more of a 4/5. Comments on the cosmetics are welcome too. Please post glowing opinions here but use my yuku mailbox or email (tpipic@columbus.rr.com) if you
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Bill Taylor 7'3" 2/2 4wt. hollow quad
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Posts: 3394 07/20/2008 12:13 Local user |
I lawn casted Bill's Quad 7'3 2/2 4 wt. recently compliments of seattlesetters and found it to be true 4wt. medium-fast action and a true joy to cast.
The cosmetics & varnish were excellent. I was impressed with it. Seattlesetters fished it on the Firehole the day we fished together and will be able to
give you a more indepth opinion.
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Posts: 1962 07/20/2008 13:52 The COOLER |
While I can't comment on that particular rod, I can say something regarding Bill's cosmetics. I'm far from being an expert but I have lawn cast and inspected many of Bill's rods over the past four years or so. Bill's cosmetics and the quality of his rods have improved exponentially in the last two years. I fished his 6'9" 3 weight just this morning and continue to be amazed by the craftsmanship. I also have an 8', three weight hollow built on order from Bill and due to be completed shortly. When Bill asked me how I wanted it, flamed, not flamed, color of wraps, I ended up leaving it all to him. I have that much faith in his eye. I doubt you will find a better made rod anywhere. Good Luck & let us know how you make out.
Rolf Brook Trout are God's way of reminding us everything is going to be alright. |
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Posts: 291 07/21/2008 13:49 |
tiptop wrote: tiptop - I really like Bill Taylor's 7'3" 2/2 4wt quad. The little hollow-built rod is light as a feather; in fact, at 2.5oz, it's as light
or lighter than most 7' 3wt hex rods I've handled. The first thing you'll notice when you pick it up and waggle it is how truly light it is. So
light, that it may not initially compute in your brain that you're handling a 4wt rod. It just feels so light & lithe, and it cuts a very narrow
profile. It even feels a bit on the medium side when you waggle it. It is noticeably lighter than solid-built 4wt rods I've handled of similar length.
But string it up with a 4wt line, make a few casts....and, wow! The little rod generates a lot of line speed if you need to, and it is accurate, accurate, accurate. It's tracking is phenomenal. Your brain will still be in denial, though. You won't believe such a light little wand can possibly be doing what it is doing (say, accurate casts into a brisk wind at 60'). The closest analogy I can think of is those fake, styrofoam rocks that are used as props in Hollywood films. Have you ever lifted one? Your brain takes a minute to figure out that it is so light. The rod is easy to handle and does all the technical casts well. Curve and pile casts are easy, and line speed can be generated in just about any increment needed during a day's fishing....even if a good wind comes up, as it did recently on the Firehole River (approx. 15mph). I would call it a true 4wt. However, I fished it with a Phoenix DT-5 that is closer to slightly heavy 4wt line, and I think it a good match. I've also tried it with a Phoenix DT-4 that weighs out about a 3.5wt and the rod did OK with this line, too. If I were to buy a specific line for the rod, it would be a 4wt that weighed a few grains north of 120gr.....a Terenzio 4.25wt comes immediately to mind. IMHO, a 5wt line would be too heavy for this medium-fast action rod. As for usage profiles, I would say anyone looking for a highly-capable, versatile 4wt rod 7' - 7'6" in length should seriously consider this
rod. Also, anyone considering a 7' - 7'6" 3wt rod who is waffling on getting a 3wt due
to not being sure if it will get used enough will like the light weight of this rod and will have no worries about whether it will handle wind or longer casts.
Anyone wanting an ideal small and medium stream rod to add to their quiver pretty much can't go wrong if they like a medium-fast action, good looks and
light weight. I also believe it would make an excellent transition rod for anyone making the switch from shorter (7' - 8'6") plastic rods.
The 7'3" length, much like 7'9", is an outstanding one that just has a terrific feel and overall versatility to it. This rod is truly at
home doing anything you'd expect of a 7' rod, or of a 7'6" rod.
Cosmetically, Bill does as fine a job as anybody. This blonde rod is very tastefully wrapped in olive tipped red (tipped red, black & yellow at the hookkeeper and ferrules), and node & glue work is well executed. I particularly like Bill's signature wraps.....they add a touch of elegance that manages to stay understated yet attractive. Although I am not the most experienced on this forum, I would say this rod is as good a value as is out there right now.
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Posts: 1238 07/21/2008 14:23 |
Great homage to Bill's address Seattle! I would love to hold one of Bill's rods, cast it and even fish with it. Are you listening Bill?
How funny is it that we all agree on a versatile rod as the rod just described, yet we tend to look for those 'special purpose rods' which excels in certain conditions rather than got for those couple of do-it-all rods and stop moaning about getting more boo rods! 
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Posts: 298 07/21/2008 16:13 |
Seattle -- Thanks for the comprehensive description of this rod -- sounds great. I found it particularly interesting that you said it seemed more of a medium
action when waggled but able to generate excellent line speed like a faster action rod. I have a 7' 2/2 Druey hollow fluted quad that acts the same way.
Maybe there is something about the short hollow quads that causes this.
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Posts: 294 07/21/2008 16:39 |
tiptop wrote: I'm thinking this is more a function of weight. While the rods seems to feel medium action when you waggle it, I think what is really happening is the thing is so light, it's easy to force it with a heavy hand....even when just "waggling" it. Like most cane rods, it doesn't respond well to a heavy hand, and if you let the rod do the work, its medium-fast nature and ability to generate excellent line speed come shining through. It's that "does not compute" feeling you get from the rod initially that I think throws things off a bit. Once you get it out on the water,
though, it's as sweet a rod as you'll ever fish, and more than capable of doing anything you'd expect of both 7' and 7'6" 4wt rods.
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Posts: 306 07/25/2008 11:15 |
ibookje wrote: Great point. I am thinking I can really do most of my trout fishing with Bill's 7'3" 4wt and a strong 8'3" 5wt rod like Sweetgrass' pent. There might be times I wish I had a Midge or a 3wt, and a few where a 6wt might be a bit better than a 5wt. But 90% + of all my fishing could be done with those two rods. I couldn't do that, of course. I fish too many varied waters and am the type who really likes to have a specialty rod for each place. But if a guy is going to new places or places where there is a bunch of diversity, these "versatile" rods sure make a lot of sense. They also fit several niches quite well, too! |
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Posts: 284 07/25/2008 12:55 |
"quote-title">seattlesetters wrote: But 90% + of all my fishing could be done with those two rods. I hope my wife doesn't see this post. |
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Posts: 308 07/25/2008 13:03 |
PYochim wrote: You & me, both!!!! |
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