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Posts: 1633 07/24/2008 07:56 |
Okay, you serious collectors, I'd love to see images of your Ed Payne rods. We're talking early ones, pre-1914. Payne worked on his own for less than
two decades after leaving Thomas, Edwards & Payne. Any examples out there--?!
Common on, guys. These are right there along with Hawes & early FE Thomas rods. Post your photos! Pat
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Posts: 1027 07/24/2008 22:45 |
Early Jim or late Ed? Messed with or not? I don't know.
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Posts: 1636 07/25/2008 17:07 |
Lon, a beauty. Nice ferrules--particularly the males. I'd guess it really is by Ed, although there was undoubtedly transitional use by Jim of his
father's components. Most of the early rods that Jim made used Tonkin--some were even flamed. So the Calcutta points toward earlier crafting by Ed. Wrap
colors are the reverse of the Kosmic. A lovely piece. Many thanks for posting these!
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Posts: 829 07/25/2008 22:17 |
Aside from the short tip, it's all original. The standing ring guides I believe are nickel silver. This is a beautiful piece from Ed! T120 |
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Posts: 1031 07/26/2008 10:03 |
Thanks. I found the guides must curious of all. I have seen them on old bait rods, but not on fly rods.
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Posts: 1637 07/26/2008 12:57 |
Lon, how are the rings held up? They almost look like vertically-set hookkeepers. And if the wraps appear original, then the rings should be as well, right? Of
course, as you suggest, it could have been re-wrapped decades ago.
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Posts: 1034 07/26/2008 17:57 |
Pat, I cleaned some old varnish off the rings and it became clear that they are actually open, with a very slight twist. Here are some pictures that show them
up close, plus a better shot of the Payne stamping. The guides do not appear to be hookkeepers; they are pretty thick.
Lon 
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Posts: 1638 07/26/2008 19:38 |
Extremely cool. I have never seen guides like those. Anyone else--? I wonder if these are guides that Payne made, or had custom made? Certainly nothing in the
Leonard or Kosmic heritage that could have predicted these...
They also look like they could catch fine silk line on occasion. Always a pleasure to see something new & unexpected. Great shots! |
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Posts: 830 07/26/2008 23:32 |
The nickel silver guides are what Ed called "tournament" guides. They allowed the lines to wisk quickly through them. There's less surface area
on an upright guide like these than on a regular one, and the cast will shoot straighter and with less friction. Who said all the high tech stuff is now!!??
I've also seen these on Leonards, but they were bronzed.
Ed made the guides. I had an exact rod like this but without the tipping. It was wrapped black/cream jasper. Everything else was identical. I hope you're not planning on fishing this museum piece. T120 |
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Posts: 1038 07/27/2008 11:01 |
T120,
Thanks for the information about the guides. I looked through several years of Lang's catalogs and all of my reference books and couldn't find other examples. Lon |
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Posts: 916 07/27/2008 11:36 |
Did to be my imagination, or the ferrules are identical to the prefire Leonards??.
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Posts: 1039 07/28/2008 10:54 |
Very close, for sure.
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