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marcusw	Silk braided leaders		Lead	[-]
Posts: 61 07/25/2008 11:25	Tags : None I know some silk lines come with braided silk leaders - but have no idea why a braided leader is a good thing, especially when fishing for finnicky fish in clear water when I would have thought a long tapered bit of plastic would better do the job - even when on the end of a bit of bamboo and long bit of silk line ?
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joaniebo		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1506 07/25/2008 11:43	Marcus I think it all boils down to personal likes and dislikes of the various leaders ..... and much of it to be a personal preference for the "traditional" pieces of equipment. I have, and use, (especially when Gofish isn't around) braided / furled leaders made of silk and poly threads, to which I tie a modern piece of mono tippet. But recently, I've started tying my own mono leaders using the dimensions and lengths used / stated in Oliver Kite's book (Nymph Fishing in Practice) and have pretty much set aside the other leaders since the Kite-type leaders have worked so well for me, plus, they're inexpensive to make. My suggestion to anyone would be to try each of the various leaders and see which you feel the most comfortable with ... and then use it for awhile. Cheers and Safe Fishing Bob PS - For many years, people have fly fished with horsehair, gut and colored leaders and still caught fish !
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bluejayee		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 507 07/25/2008 12:51	Hi Guys, Ive been messing with braided leaders a little bit and think the suppleness allows a bit better drag-free float in conflicting currents. The tippet is not included 'cause it's just a regular tippet. I use both Orvis and Cortland but I pull the mono core out of the Cortland and I glue them both on. I think they may actually be a bit better for fussy fish. I know nothing about braided silk. Jay Edwards
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Flyfishbill		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 987 07/26/2008 09:28	I like furled leaders because it is easy to tie on a tippet, but they spray too much water when they first come off the stream on my back cast. So I go back and worth. Usually late in the summer, when I am fishing clear calm water, I go with an Orvis knotless leader. I have tried to make my own leaders, but my knots are to fat. Bill FFBill Go Bucks!
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ttrotter		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 705 07/26/2008 18:33 Moderator	I recently started fishing with furled leaders and love them.- No spray. Mike Moline makes some great ones out of uni-thread. I recently field tested a new material for him- just a superb leader which immulates silk, but with no weak spots. You should give him a try (no financial interest here!) mike@streamsideleaders.com Regards, Tom
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reckless	silk leaders	#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 17 07/27/2008 22:58	Like silk lines, do silk leaders require any special tratment for use? Do they need dressing or drying out? Neil
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mtn	re: leaders	#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 384 07/27/2008 23:22	I started playing around with several different leader formulas maybe 7-6 years ago when I started fishing silk lines. I have tried a few furled and braided leaders but really didn't find any that performed to my liking. Same goes for pretty much all the knotless factory leaders when used with silk lines, just too heavy in the butt section.. Thumbing thru Bergmans "Trout" I found some very simple formulas that work quite well. After all my edition was from when silk lines were the line of choice. Mike Last Edited By: mtn 07/28/2008 09:48. Edited 1 time.
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DrLogik		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1478 07/28/2008 22:01	Mike, I agree with you. I to have tried furled (both silk and synthetic), braided and the Airflo Polyfuse leaders but I keep coming back to my hand-knotted leaders from either Bergman's book or the formulas I got when at Kaufman's Streambourne school. Butt section=Dairiki Velvet, mid section=Velvet, tippet=whatever is handy. These leaders are soft and supple and turn-over like a dream. Although I have admit that I really do like the Airflo Polyfuse leaders though and the furled silk leader that I dressed with mucilin was pretty darn nice to. DrLogik.com
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retrotrout	Preparations, dressings for leaders, furled or otherwise	#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 68 07/28/2008 23:42	I think that all the post WWII hype about how easy it is to care for a plastic line or leader, and how arduous the preparations for fishing silk lines is simply baloney. As much as nylon lines have advanced, the tips still sink far quicker than any well-dressed silk line. That by itself draws your dry fly underwater on every pickup. Do nylon leaders need to be greased? You betcha, unless you want the same thing to happen. I grease all of the leader except the tippet. How long does it take to clean and dress a silk line before fishing? Maybe 5 minutes, if you're really slow. How long does it take to dry a silk line after fishing with it. I really don't know, since I don't sit there watching the water molecules slowly evaporate. How many fishing days to you get from a $50 top of the line nylon leader before it begins to crack? Maybe a season. How many fishing days for a properly cared for silk? Well, I'm still fishing a Phoenix DT4 that is 12 years old, and just as good as the day I bought it. Why does silk cast so much better than nylon? Because it's only about 67% of the diameter of the equivalent nylon. It has more mass, making it capable of far tighter loops, better penetration into the wind, and takes far less effort to cast. Finally, the tips of tapered silk lines are so fine that your nylon/furled leader butt need only be about .015". Don't you think trout appreciate finesse and delicacy? Nothing lands with less disturbance than a properly cast silk line. It's thinner! Duh!!!
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