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So, that was a fish whistle? Huh, who wudda thunk? Maybe I should give that a try. I might just catch a few more fish that way.
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Woke up to a foggy mountain Saturday in Townsend so decided to head home a bit early. Great meeting you guys. Glad I tried mountain stream fishing. However, I
can say it's not my cup of tea. Fishing just shouldn't be that much work. Wish I had listened to Rich and used my wading staff, I would have fished
much drier. Ralph, it was great chatting with you Friday evening.
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My first bash and I found it very informative, met a great bunch of guys and learned a ton about Boo. I want to thank everyone that helped me out with Boo
questions and directed me in the right direction.
There were some great looking rods both new and old. I also enjoyed the Troutfest and picked up some new tying tricks. Thanks to everyone. I'll be headed to the Catskills next week for as long as I decide. |
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Very good to meet you gentlemen as well...conditions were a bit tough for fishing, but hopefully the conversation and the beautiful cane on display made up for
any impromptu "baptisms" you might have had.
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czkid |
Bash '09 Report | #66 | ||
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How to describe pure beauty??? Part of the answer has to be… the Smoky Mountains in springtime. I arrived on Wednesday at about noon and the weather was glorious, bright sunshine, temperatures in the 60s, and a few little cotton balls in the sky… just perfect. The local TU chapter was already working on Trout Fest that was to kick off with a big fundraising dinner on Friday night, vendor tents and the big fly-tying/banquet tent were being raised, the parking signs were being unloaded… things were happening.
I checked into Dock's and unloaded all my gear, got on the cell phone and checked in with Michael Sinclair… Michael was a hour and a half out, so I checked in with Little River Outfitters and found folks there going nuts getting ready for Trout Fest. Byron, the owner and I had a great time chatting about the economy, how things were going at the shop, Trout Fest plans etc. until Michael and his bride "Shorty" showed up. They got their licenses and it was off to lunch!!! A quick lunch, drop the stuff at Dock's and we were off to the river.
Both Michael and Shorty had just finished taking the rod-building course at the Ozark Rodmakers' School under the tutelage of Harry Boyd and Bob Nunley and wanted to prove out those beautiful new creations. Byron had told me to run them over to the West Prong of the Little River as that was close, easy to wade, and the fish were "willing". We suited up and in short order both the Sinclair folks had caught their fish and their rods were appropriately "blessed". We then toured around, checked out some of the other waters, and called it a night with an early supper.
Thursday was to be a free day for us to fish, enjoy friends, and build up an appetite for the "brat" cookout. Pete, a friend of the Sinclair's is an inhalation therapist at one of the local hospitals. He had put in for vacation months back, but with all the flu, etc. running around, the only day he had free was Thursday. We all had breakfast together at the Sinclair cabin overlooking the river and then we were off to fish the area above Tremont on the Middle Prong of the Little River. Shorty managed to take a bath in the process of fishing and so we took her back to the cabin, had lunch and then hit Metcalf Bottoms for some fishing and the "brat" cookout.
Rich Margiotta (Eastprong) lives in Knoxville and had graciously offered to feed all the early arrivals with Brats and all the fixings. So there we were… about 8 of us on the banks of the Little River eating Brats/Potato Salad/Slaw etc., drinking beer, and talking bamboo… does it get any better than this??? After the food we went after the fish, but despite the fact that there were bugs coming off all over the place our finny little friends didn't want to cooperate… and that seemed to be the situation most of the weekend.
Friday morning was another glorious day… we started at Little River Outfitters at about 0900 and had a great time talking cane, comparing rods, answering questions, etc. In the midst of the festivities we had a star of the fly fishing world join us for about a half hour… the great Joe Humphries!!! Joe was in town to speak at the TU banquet that evening along with Left Krey and Bob Clouser. After talking with us he was off to go fishing with Walter Babbs and catch a few Brookies. We adjourned for lunch and fishing.
Saturday was a repeat of Friday, except we had a few different players and Dave Male was there to regale us with tales of the "Good Old Days" and to work miracles with his "acme ferrule tightener". We then had a pizza for lunch and went off to investigate the vendors and Trout Fest, all the neat cars at the Studebaker Gathering at the Tally Ho Inn (you older guys explain it to the newbies), and the fish.
Sunday night it rained like Hell… I awoke to the river being up almost a foot and running the color of café au lait. So I loaded my truck, took the extras over to the Sinclair cabin since they were staying a few extra days… and went home in the rain. Two disappointments…. 1) The attendance (quantity not quality) and 2) the fishing. Both, I find, we can do something about. 1. Attendance - We were a bit shy on folks this year for various reasons… the economy/conflicts/etc./etc. Interestingly enough, the Trout Fest did NOT seem to bring hoards of folks into town. I was frankly amazed. The Tally Ho Inn was totally booked by the Studebaker crew, the real fisher folks and we had Dock's, and the celebrities had the Highland Manor Inn… other than that there was room. My favorite campground (Ye Olde Mill) only had 7-8 slots occupied; Narcodog reported that Elkmont was largely free. Chartist had no problem getting a room at the Econolodge and there seemed to be plenty of rooms available in town. The only problem we ever had getting food was Friday morning when a big group of bikers descended on our favorite little local café. The weather was absolutely glorious, we'd get a little shower each night, but the only real rain was Saturday night. Trout Fest was a nice adjunct to the Bash… a number of nice vendors including 2 bamboo rod makers… one local and a gentleman out of Indianapolis with about 20+ rods… nice prices, etc.
2. The Fishing - The word I get is that had we fished the right places we'd have done well. Walter Babbs took Joe H. up Brookie fishing, and the word I get is that they took 1 or 2 out of every little pool they worked. A couple other folks that I talked to caught fish… but they were up higher than we fished. We just have to work the logistics of being bit more adventuresome. Some like Shorty have a problem wading… and we can accommodate that… I think. The others of us just have to be willing to go off on our own, or with one other person since most of the upper waters are smaller. The other fisher folks at Dock's that fished low… didn't catch fish… just like us. They saw plenty of bugs… like us. But no fish, regardless of what they threw at them. I personally witnessed a number of occasions when nice, big, juicy May flies landed on the river and floated off downstream with nary a rise to them.
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czkid-
It was a blast meeting you all at LRO. I don't often get a chance to check out bamboo rods, so that was a pretty neat gathering. Very interestng to see the different takes on small stream rods. As far as the fishing there, for me it was tough sledding. After I left the Boo Bash on Saturday, I managed 4 small trout along the Tremont road, but it was hard work. The only rises I got to dries were from warpaint shiners. The 4 trout all hit a BH Pheasant Tail variant I tie on a scud hook with a sprig of Krystal Flash and Antron. But even then they seemed to be selective about color. It was nice to finally land trout in the park on my Norling, though. I think the more willing fish tend to be farther away from the roads, unfortunately. There are about a dozen spots along the Tremont road that everyone tries, but I typically have my best luck the further I walk out from the trailhead. 92E |
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At least I managed to catch one trout during my visit, a nice 12" brownie in one of the locations Rich showed us the day before. The key was having the
wading staff as it allowed me better access to the hole.
I tried fishing in the stocked area with no luck. Just one of those weekends I guess. It was nice to see a part of the park other than Gatlinburg. |
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There's nothing easy about fishing the Smoky Mtn streams I fear... and it's not the sort of place that you can just walk in and start catching trout...
unless you get lucky. There are a few streams on the N side of Gatlinburg that might be termed "user friendly" (lower sections of Greenbrier come to
mind), but all in all the Smoky Mtn fishing is a challenge.
Let me see if I can clarify that a bit... access is always a problem in the mountains. Any water that is directly available and easy to wade will be and is pounded. Given the gradients in most areas, you have to work at getting to the water, and while wading or fishing the water. Most of the good guide books for the area will tell you to wade as little as possible... the fish are spooky. The more back country streams have more willing fish... but the access is difficult. With two artificial knees I have to be very careful where I go, and how I get there... and I always have a wading staff. Anyone that fishes the area without a staff is asking for trouble IMHO. Also, there are some areas, that are nortorious for being slick... Abrams Creek to be specific. Both Rich and I have busted our butts there with both studs and a staff... it's no fun. Next year, I'm going to put out some suggestions for "back country streams" that you can pair up and go fish. You notice I said "pair up". Do not under any circumstances try to do this solo... if you fall and get hurt you could be there for days. It would be nice to maybe have a destination sheet, with a sign out and sign in so we don't loose anyone. NO... I'm not exagerating... hopefully Rich, and some of the others with more Smoky Mtn experience than I will chime in here and say something. Thanks for being there... I think the few folks that walked in on us garnered some valuable info, and I know the sharing was welcomed by all. Having old farts like Dave Male and Michael Sinclair around really make these sessions worthwhile. Rich Margiotta also has a wealth of information as to restoration and building up blanks... and all of you either have experience or questions in areas that bring out some very pertinent information. If anyone has suggestions for improvements, etc. don't hesitate to PM me. Thanks, Ralph
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After about the sixth time of driving to a hole, climbing down to it, not catching a fish & climbing back to the car, I have to admit it got pretty
overwhelming and I am only 47.......I am ready for a boo bash at the White river or north fork river Arkansas.
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lkbamboo.thebamboorodroom |
There Is One! | #71 | ||
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Southern Rodmakers Gathering October 22-24th
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Chartist1 wrote:There's been one there for the past 11 years. It's called the Southern Rodmakers Gathering. Everyone - rod makers or anyone who really appreciates bamboo rods - is welcome. It's held near the end of October and should be a "must attend" for any forum members who can get there. If you want easy fishing, may I suggest the San Juan - and a float trip? NO climbing (once you get into the boat, that is). Townsend was great, the companionship was first-rate and the fishing pretty much sucked (though I did get one really nice brown). All in all a great time. Good to see my old friends and proud to say I made some new friends. If I'm lucky, they will become old friends, too. Ralph did a really fine job of putting Sharon and I on a place to initiate our Ozark Rod Makers School rods. Shorty actually had a fish on within about five minutes. Many thanks, Ralph, for the help! Now, about that "old fart" business....... Aaron and Ralph - our wife called. She's p-o'd (again). You had to be there to understand this one. Pete Yeomans (16Parachute Adams here on the board) showed me some great places to fish, & a REALLY good Mexican restaurant (thanks again!) and demonstrated the proper methods for smallmouth fishing. He caught one pretty nice one so at least now I have seen one! Next year I'll work on actually catching one. Pete is also quite a profound philosopher. We always have great conversations. And that's on nothing stronger than my Cajun coffee. Just a though, Ralph - maybe we should plan the gathering for a couple of weeks later....that's when I hear the fishing is better. (Although they always say it was great "yesterday".) This trip was a strong reminder that there's a lot more to fishing than catching fish. Being in the company of good men made it a fine outing. And speaking of good men, I can't sign off without thanking Rich (Eastprong) one more time for the fine sausage, brats and fixins' he provided.
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Sorry to join up on the forum too late to plan for this year's bash. Don't know if you let yankees come, worst than that - California-living yankees at
that.
A close friend that I've been trying to visit with for
a couple of years, lived in Sevierville, just passed before I could come back and see him. Got cancer and went fast. I'm trying to convince my wife that we
need to retire in a few years to E. Tenn and get far from the left-coast. She liked living in Alabama, but I want to be close to some trout fishing and so am
looking at TN. That's also closer to her family up in PA plus she has an uncle in Bristol. Got to check out the fishing before I decide where to become a
"darn" yankee. So maybe next year I'll see you all.
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Don't spend too much time worrying about the Yankee end of it- and by the way it's Damn Yankee- there are a lot of us already here. The natives are
friendly, but you'll never be "from around here" no matter how long you stay. The fishing can be great weather and water willing but it is work
and it helps to be part mountain goat. If you get up this way for any reason, give me a call and we'll see if a fish can be had. Regards, 16pa
PS regarding Ralph's admonition about going back country alone, he is absolutely correct. I spent many hours a few years ago extracting myself from one of those nasty little happenings and ended up losing some anatomy at that. DON'T DO IT. Also keep in mind that the bears have been acting funny lately- no joke.
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I knew it was damn yankee, just didn't want to get in trouble with the owner/moderators.
I grew up fishing, among other places, a beaver dammed brookie stream in
central Ontario while with a 9' Montague Sunbeam of my dad's. So I know all about dense woods, no-see-em's, black bears and long rods. Plus a long
love for DEET products.
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The clarity of the water got me....It magnified the stream floor so the water didn't appear too deep....I stepped over a rock in the stream and went from 2
feet of water to 5 feet and over my waders....that was hairy.....And the stream was quick too....
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Chartist1 wrote: I dd that once in Solvenia and ended up up to my neck. Good thing it very slow moving, wasn't any deeper and I was able walk my way out. Scared my host big time and once more managed to light up the complete darn fool light located on my forehead for all to see.
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We can and do put up with Yankees.... it's the California business that worries us. Heck, I did 4 years of college and 1 year in the USAF out there, and
you never hear me mention it!!! I will deny it to my grave. Everyone used to give S. CA all the grief, but now the Northern section is getting fruity as
well.
If you do come, remove all vestiges of California itis from your belongings, re-tag your cars, and never utter the CA word again... then you might be safe. Ralph
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Chartist1 wrote:That's surely true. Many of the rocks were shaped like bowling balls - and were slicker than snot, too. Adventures in wading on a daily basis. I would never try it without a wading staff! |
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And we had you guys on the Easy Stuff.... if you want bad wading we'll run you over to Abram's creek and watch you fall on your posteriors. Both Rich
and I have managed to fall on the easy sections of Abram's standing still... and then had to hike over a mile back to the car... not pleasant at all.
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