What is the best way to make a loop in the end of the silk line?
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 Bucktrout |
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Posts: 465 12/27/2008 19:37 |
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DrLogik |
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Posts: 1563 12/27/2008 20:25 |
Buck,
Not sure if it's the "best" way but I did learn it here: Cut a 45 degree angle on the last 1/8" or so of the line (ie make a chisel point). Fold that back to make a small loop just big enough to get the leader loop through. Whip some white silk thread on the line and be sure to overlap the chisel point by about a 1/4" up the line. Whip finish and coat with spar varnish. That's assuming you want a loop-ended fly line. I did this on both ends so that I can strip all the line out and flip the line when the front starts to sink. I get almost an entire day of floating by doing that method. I don't fish nearly as much as I should but I'm going on two years with the last whip...and it's just now starting to fray. Time to re-whip a loop. |
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Shakeyfly |
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Posts: 6 12/28/2008 09:16 |
Has anyone tried one of Mr. Zhu's Rods?
Other than warranty etc what other issues have you experienced? The price seems right to take a chance on. I am just curious if anyone has actually tried these no name rods from China? Shakey |
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DrLogik |
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Posts: 1564 12/28/2008 15:52 |
Come to think about it, has anyone tried the braided loop connectors on a silk line? I haven't tried it before because I didn't think the super glue
would stick to the line very well. Maybe I should try it out though. Any first-hand experience among us with braided loops on silk lines?
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moregrayling |
braided loops on silk | #25 | ||
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Posts: 395 12/29/2008 01:38 |
DrLogik wrote: doc, as far as I know, the braid tightens when pulled at; i.e. the loops don't need the superglue to work. I've tried some very fine diametre loops (going by the brand name of "lightweight mini loops") on silk lines, but the diametre of silk lines is to small for the loops to work properly, or, that's at least what I think. hope this helps. best from "krautland", christian
them 'at knows nowt, fears nowt
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joaniebo |
Possible Virus Infection | #26 | ||
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Posts: 1731 12/31/2008 14:07 |
Right before leaving for the Christmas holiday, I rec'd the three Chinese silk lines which appear to be pretty good. I'm in the process of softening
them and then coating them with Thebault line grease after softening, for use later on when the Cheese County season opens next March. Just a couple comments,
although not on the silk lines.
When I exchanged e-mails with Mr. Zhu, my anti-virus software (Norton's Internet Security 2008) notified me twice that the e-mails from China contained a virus. Yesterday, I installed Norton's Internet Security 2009 version. The 2009 software shows "Known Malicious Sites" (identified with an "X") when a Google search is done and a "check mark" if the site is deemed "Safe ' No Security Risk Detected". When I did a Google search today on "Zhu's Rods", Norton's software showed an "X - This Is A Known Malicious Site" next to Zhu's web site. Thus, would suggest that any rod forum members who have exchanged e-mails with the company and / or visited the Zhu's web site, should do a check on their PCs as to whether they were infected with a virus (identified on my software as a "Trojan Horse"). Cheers and Safe Fishing Bob |
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tiptop |
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Posts: 450 12/31/2008 15:07 |
On the one silk line I've had I used some 15 or 20 lb. mono and did a small neat nail knot on the tip of the flyline, trimmed it up and put a tiny drop of
super glue on the knot. Then tied a small perfection loop in the mono as close as possible (about half an inch) to the nail knot. I also put a touch of super
glue on the perfection loop knot. Then I repeated the same thing to the other end of the fly line so it could be flipped end to end. It took some practice on
an old plastic fly line to tie a very small perfection loop close to the nail knot before I did it on my silk line.
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mtn |
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Posts: 418 12/31/2008 15:23 |
I've tried several methods for connecting a leader to silk lines. Whiping the line back over itself works, but it seems to form a crack on the line were
the new varnish and it ends over time. Several seasons ago I nail knoted my leader directly to the line and applied a dab of pliobond and it didn't crack
thru the entire season under extensive use. I also have just nail knoted a short piece of the proper sized mono with a loop and then varnished the nail knot
and had no problems with it either. I think the direct connection of the leader via a nail knot was smoother. All my leaders are hand tied generally starting
with .015, my preference Maxima Chameleon.
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 gofish60 |
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Posts: 1889 12/31/2008 19:39 Registered User |
Hey Boobie
Did you specify to Mr Zhu that this line was for chucking six beadheads and a bobber at one time on a 9 foot 9wt plastic pole? That in itself ought to limber it up and break it in just fine. gofish
Last Edited By: gofish60 01/04/2009 18:16.
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joaniebo |
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Posts: 1732 12/31/2008 20:16 |
Eddie
PS - That's a 9 FOOT 4 weight, not a 9 WEIGHT plastic pole ! |
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Flyman615 |
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Posts: 3026 12/31/2008 20:46 |
If you're not hung up on loop-to-loop connections (no pun intended), the Wright & McGill Leader Links work well on silk lines and allow for quick
leader changes too.
Regards, Flyman 
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WatercolorMan |
Field Test | #32 | ||
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Posts: 1226 01/03/2009 05:14 |
I took my DT5 Silk line fishing Last weekend. First I was on the water for 6 hours, on a friends pond. The temp. was just under 30 this morning and went up to
about 45, just a guess on the high, all the snow had melted a few days ago. We had 16 in. last week, I didn't check the water temp It floated extremely
well and never lost its ability to stay afloat. I have lawn cast this line over the last few weeks in the break in mode. This was the first day that really was
put to an extended test . I was using my Parks 7'-6" Dickerson 7613 Hollow Built. As the day went on the line continued to become more limber and I
could feel and see it's performance improve. I know this is something that can't be hurried. Oh I used the fly line dressing (Mucilin) that came with
Silk Line, not the same as the Red Mucilin we are used to using.
The line was able to do all the cast quite well and I could see it where over the next 5 or 6 trips it will only get better. I had trouble mending the line but I think that has more to do with the length of the rod and the fact that the line is still not as supple as it will be. I was lucky enough to catch several very nice rainbows today, one just over 5 lb and several around 3 lb so the line held up well with a fish hung on the end. There is one area where I may not be as much help as others will be. I do not have any of the newer silk lines by Phoenix, Thebault or Terenzio. So I am not able to draw a direct comparison. All of my lines are old Hardy lines and one is a Salmon line 40 yard in dark green. I can see where the new line will be getting as supple as the Hardy's are soon. I now have added the 3,4 wt lines to go with the 5 wt line. The 3 & 4 wt lines seem to have broken in much faster that the 5 and are ready to spend so time on the water now. I checked the size and weight on each of the lines and they are right on. My feeling at this time is If you like fishing silk or want to try it out for the first time this is a well priced product. I posted these comments on another thread but there seem to be a lot of interest so I added it here as well. Alan |
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bobbeegee |
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Posts: 2248 01/04/2009 21:22 |
Go Heels!!!
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WatercolorMan |
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Posts: 1232 01/05/2009 03:42 |
Bob
In So. Cal where the sun always shines. 
Not great photos but you get the idea. This spot had 14" of snow the week before. Alan |
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joaniebo |
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Posts: 1736 01/05/2009 14:46 |
Have finished softening the DT3, DT4 and DT5 silk lines rec'd shortly before Christmas. Tied small nail-knotted loops with orange dacron line backing;
made 3, 4 and 5 hash marks on the lines near the loops; spar varnished the loops and hash marks; and later this week will rub in a couple coats of Thebault
line grease after the varnish dries. Just need some warmer temps and March7th to come around before I get to "Gofish"ing
again.
Best Bob PS - (on 1/7/09) - Just finished rubbing in a few coats of Thebault line grease on the DT3 and DT4 lines which are now quite soft and flexible. Would consider them to be at least equal to the 4 Terenzio silks that I have and use. For the price these silk lines are being sold for, basically close to the retail prices of many plastic lines, it's difficult to imagine that you could go wrong in getting a couple ... .for probably less than many used lines are being sold.
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DrLogik |
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Posts: 1575 01/19/2009 00:13 |
Got mine yesterday from Mr Zhu. This line is NOT like my Phoenix line. It's much coarser and rougher than the Phoenix. Granted though, for the price, you
can't go wrong. I'm going to pu it through its paces soon. I'll let you know what I think.
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bamb00zler |
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Posts: 22 01/19/2009 09:13 |
I recently received my DT3 silk line from Mr. Zhu and am in the process of softening and breaking it in, it took less than 2 weeks to arrive here in Wisconsin
from China. If it fishes as well as the DT4 Phoenix line that I have it will prove to be a tremendous value. The 90g tin of of fly line dressing that
accompanies the line is labled as being mucilin. I had inquired about the availablity of a DT1 and Mr. Zhu responded that he would have them available in
about 20 days...I gotta git me one of dem, too.
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SWhitman |
Fished my DT4 yesterday... Outstanding! | #38 | ||
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Posts: 390 01/19/2009 18:35 |
I bought a DT4 and it took about 5 evening to break it in and I much say I'm very pleased with it. It floated well all day (about 5 hrs) temps in the
mid thirties and performed as well as any silk line I own. I have 6 silk lines of various brands. the GA 7030 liked it a lot.
Scott |
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nativebrownie |
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Posts: 637 01/20/2009 16:20 |
SWhitman,
Thanks for the field report - sounds great... NB |
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bluejayee |
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Posts: 618 01/27/2009 12:56 |
Hi Guys, If the Chinese should know something about silk shouldn't they also know something about bamboo? That leader to line splice on silk is really
simple if you use a braided leader. Orvis and Cortland both make them. You need to take the core out of the Cortland. [Core out of the Cortland!!] [Spike
Jones?] Cut the loop off and Chinese hand cuff the butt to the line. Glue it with super glue or I like the Loon urethane stuff. Trim the loose ends. Works
'slick as a ministers dick.' By that I mean there is no lump going through the guides to hang up. I do have some more traditional loops in some
lines. Gotta watch 'em though. They'll snap a rod tip if you don't manage things.. Jay Edwards
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