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DriesVR	Preserving tube labels		Lead	[-]
Posts: 63 11/28/2008 11:24	Tags : None I'm pretty sure this has been already done, but I can't find it so I apologize in advance. So, any favorite way (if any) that you guys use to preserve rod tube labels?
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tim simbari		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 281 11/28/2008 11:54	Get your hands on a couple sections of larger heat shrink plastic, the same stuff you often see protecting the handles of rods. If you're careful you can do it with a hair dryer or better still get a low priced heat gun used for model airplane covering and just keep the heat oppisite the label side. Stuff's bullet proof and it just slices off.
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Ken M 44		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2696 11/28/2008 12:31 Immoderatus Britannicus	Heat Shrink tubing is generally one of two different products :- PVC (PolyVinylChloride) shrinks at low temperatures but is acidic by nature which may or may not be a problem - I would say not. At reasonable thickness' it will certainly provide the protection required and is very clear and easy to use. It can sometimes be found without a seam (extruded tube sleeving). It is mostly being replaced by Polyester which needs a higher shrink temperature and is a harder, and therefore, more scratch resistant. The easy way to tell the difference is to ignite a very small piece (outside) and immediately blow out the flame and smell the fumes - if it is strongly acidic the fumes will catch in your throat (it is hydrochloric acid gas ) and it is PVC, if it is Polyester it will smell like burning polythene. Polyester is recyclable which is why it is now favoured over PVC (which is not). Do not even try to use Polythene - it is not very clear, and some labels have a laminate or coating on their outer surface - it can bond to it. Last Edited By: Ken M 44 11/28/2008 12:34. Edited 1 time.
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creakycane		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1922 11/28/2008 12:50	Being a book collector, I have some of those mylar clear book covers around from Brodart - I just cut a piece of mylar and wrap around and secure with wide clear carton tape. You can get a bunch from one large cover.... Works great, and since it is made for fine books/jackets, less likely to mess up the paper on the labels. I would be careful of anything that would trap moisture under the label (including these mylar things) as I have seen a few labels covered in plastoc that looked a bit smudged/water damaged underneath.
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bluno		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 145 11/30/2008 04:56	I use rod tube socks made from fabric. They do not only prevent the label, they also prevent the tube from dings. You can also transport several tubes quietly. Because, you have never to remove the rod tube from the sock, the methods works very well. With very old labels, which are already partially damaged or separated from the tube, I wrap simply some soft packing paper secured with a rubber string around, before inserting in the rod sock. With these methods I was able to preserve the conditions of very fragile labels while still fishing the rods.
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16 pmd		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 609 11/30/2008 13:56	Not exactly a direct answer to the question, but leaving the original tubes at home when fishing a rod helps save the label. I often use PVC tubes to take rods fishing, leaving the metal ones at home. PVC is much tougher than metal, stays cooler in a hot vehicle, looks very ordinary (if you're worried about theft) - and you don't have to be concerned about labels.
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glassorcane	protecting labels	#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 258 11/30/2008 23:26	I have taken a clear plastic protector - you know - it has two sides and a slot for a sheet of paper you want to protect and the plastic has been punched with 3 holes for use in a 3 ring binder. Anyway, you take that and cut strips of it wider than the label you want to protect. Use Scotch Tape to attach the strip to the tube above and below the label (never on the label). This has worked pretty good for me to protect from scraping (although not waterproof).
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steeldog94	Protecting Tube Label	#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 104 12/01/2008 18:48	I have yet to see a single instance where the tube label added to the value of a rod vs the condition and make of the rod. That being said I like to keep my tube labels intact because 1) they are nice to look at and 2) they provide a lot of information on the rod. I made my first statement because I don't think you need or should try to protect a rod tube label like you would a valuable book, comic, stamp, etc. and that it is more important to have protection that allows you to use your rod tube. I find the best way to protect a rod label is using "Clear Bodyguard". It's a paint protection film used on cars to protect them from stone chips and road debris; you can find it on the internet. It won't yellow over age. It is basically a thick 5½ inch wide film/tape that you can put directly over your tube label and protect it from moisture, scratches, abuse, etc. Because it is made for harsh environment it will protect your label for life. Last Edited By: steeldog94 12/01/2008 18:57. Edited 1 time.
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Trout120		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 884 12/01/2008 22:04	Bravo Steeldog. You took the words right out of my mouth. I've never been concerned about tube labels. Does anyone actually think one would turn down a Payne, Gillum, etc. because the tube label either isn't there, or maybe not 100%? Not to mention pay top dollar for it anyway. Why spend all your time and money using various high tech protection when you can put on a clear sheet of the tape that UPS or others put over shipping labels. That's great protection. Just make sure you don't crease it. Or just leave it alone and let it age gracefully. T120
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DriesVR		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 64 12/02/2008 04:16	Trout120 wrote: Bravo Steeldog. You took the words right out of my mouth. I've never been concerned about tube labels. Does anyone actually think one would turn down a Payne, Gillum, etc. because the tube label either isn't there, or maybe not 100%? Not to mention pay top dollar for it anyway. Why spend all your time and money using various high tech protection when you can put on a clear sheet of the tape that UPS or others put over shipping labels. That's great protection. Just make sure you don't crease it. Or just leave it alone and let it age gracefully. T120 I don't believe a label on a tube could change the value of a rod, but at the same time I think some of the labels are pretty cool (South Creek Ltd. and Leonard are the first that come to mind) and I think it's a pity to just "let them go". Then again, I am talking about my rods, you should do what you want with with yours... tear'em off and put an eminem sticker on it if you like, whatever float your fly. The way I look at it, collectability is what you make of it: functional cane rods, mint cane rods, to each his own. Why spend all my time and money using various high tech protection? Why not? Why collect rods at all? There's Chevy lovers anf Ford lovers, then in the middle there are Dodge lovers.
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Trout120		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 887 12/02/2008 18:30	All good points VR. I try and save what's left also, hence the big clear tape. That's what some of the manufacturers used anyway. T120
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rckdr		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 17 12/03/2008 22:09	Do not , I say DO NOT use polyvinyl chloride heat shrink tubing to preserve anything. This is generally considered a no-no in the world of archivists. I have thousands of old photo slides that were stored in PVC holders and they are now just about completely ruined. Polyethelene is considered archivally safe. Another option is the custom length heavy cloth tube covering sleeves that Bob Selb sells for $20 each. I find that they order good protection and the thick seams keep the cases from rolling around in the back of the suv. Incidentally, a company called Light Impressions (lightimpressions.com) specializes in products for archival storage and their catalog gives good advice. A useful product is Renaissance wax which is acid free and museum curators use it to preserve antique furniture and even put it on valuable old photographs. They also sell lots of acid free storage materials. Some of it is good for storing ephemera, original reel boxes, etc.
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steeldog94		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 105 12/06/2008 09:47	If you are protecting you rod tube label like its a MIB Starwars collectable which you never take out of the house then ok a lot of the suggestions are just fine; everbody collects things in their own way. But if you are protecting your rod tube label from actual use, abuse, and moisture out in the field (or at least your car) then using a film like "Clear Bodyguard" is a good choice, it doesn't shrink over time. The problem with some of the suggested methods is that they provide a barrier that can trap moisture which can damage the rod tube label. The clear film prevents this, but the tube label will not be MIB Starwars collectable so my suggestion was to provide another alternative and to give the reasons I suggested this approach. Ultimately its up to you what you decide you want to for your rod label. For me I felt it was more important to protect the label and still be able to use the rod tube. Last Edited By: steeldog94 12/06/2008 11:16. Edited 1 time.
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hopkintoncane		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 286 12/06/2008 11:00	If you search a little, Orvis makes a really nice cordura-covered tube thats about 4 inches OD, and it is divided inside into 4 compartments. If you place your rods in thier socks, and rotate each pair 180 degrees from each other, you can easily fit 8 rods up in the tube, and leave all those easily dented rod tubes in the closet where they belong. Or course, if someone lifts the tube out of your parked car while your fishing, you loose a lot of rods!! Todd
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Greg Reynolds		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1818 12/06/2008 11:29 Orvis Database Founder	I've posted this photo before in response to the question of preserving labels and tubes. Sackups are inexpensive and work extremely well: http://02b5a7e.netsolstores.com/ Ask for the untreated natural cotton ones. They're probably not cataloged, but they offer them. They can be easily hemmed for exact fit--turn them inside-out, cut to fit, and hand-stitch the hem. It only take a few minutes. Last Edited By: Greg Reynolds 12/06/2008 11:44. Edited 1 time.
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