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casey |
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anyone fish with clouser minnows how do you take the curl out of bucktail
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I frequently use Clouser Minnows for saltwater species, and bass. I use the natural curve of the bucktail to make a nice minnow shape by turning the clump
until the curve is facing down and tying it onto the top of the hook in that position. About the best source for a directions I have found is at this link.
http://www.flyfisherman.c...ftb/bobclouser/index.html Click on the video part 1 and 2
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casey |
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thanks i cant get it to download haveing a few computer problems but i appreciate info Casey
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i purchased a couple of crawfish flies from Clouser they always land upside down in the water wonder if that the way they are supposed to
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Bill Lambot |
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Dear Casey,
I like Flyslinger's approach a lot where you use the bucktail's natural shape to enhance the silhouette of the fly. Please let me offer a few additional comments on Clousers as I am a big fan. Take your material from the middle of the bucktail. The hairs at the butt end are too coarse for this tie. Because they are large and hollow they will flare excessively. Save them for grasshoppers, hair poppers and Muddlers. The hairs from the tip are often long, thin and curly and should be saved for patterns that require extreme length. Use the hairs from the middle of the tail. They are straight, easy to work with and their natural taper produces a nicely tapered fly. They are best suited for most Clousers up to about 4". You can "train" or shape any of your streamer flies, including Clousers, by holding them under very warm or hot running water and then stroking and shaping them until they have the streamlined configuration that you desire. Hold the fly vertical with the head pointing up under the hot water faucett and then shape and stroke them with your fingers until they are exactly as you like them. Then set them aside to air dry on a paper towel. Deep in and crazy tarpon anglers do this with every fly. You can shape 6-8 dozen in an hour. A few other ideas about Clousers. Omit the body and tail if there is one in the pattern. Tie all the hair on the bend side of the hook. There should be nothing on the other side (the top or dorsal side when you first put the hook in your vise) of the hook but the weighted eyes. If you are tying a 2 color fly then tie in the first color bucktail, then the flash (you are incorporating flash, aren't you?) and then the second color of bucktail. You can use a fly that is white bucktail under root beer krystal flash under tan bucktail or a fly that is white bucktail under lime green krystal flash under olive green bucktail to catch pan fish, trout, bass, stripers, bluefish, bonefish and tarpon. These two color combinations are very effective. You can also tie all chartreuse and all black flies. If you just can't stop your self try black over white or olive over pale pink. The flies should be tied very sparse so that they will sink quickly and have the appropriate translucency. Resist the temptation to tie them full. They don't need to be very long; a hundred pound tarpon will happily suck in a 4" fly if you put it on the plate. When you have mastered bucktail, try kraft fur.Good luck. Best regards, Bill Lambot
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bill
any chance you could put a couple pictures up for us to look at yours
Richard
Check out my web site for vintage reels & rods , guided float trips on canada's # 1 best trout river http://bowriveradventures.googlepages.com/home |
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Definitely sparse. This one is a little full for my tastes, but it will catch speckled sea trout and reds just fine.
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casey |
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thanks bill i will give this a try Casey
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Bill Lambot |
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Richard,
As requested. As you can see I am an average fly tier and a less than average photographer.Below are small clousers for pan fish and trout.
Some for stripers, blues and redfish. ![]() ![]() ![]()
Clousers and related patterns for bonefish. ![]() ![]()
Individual bonefish flies to show more detail.
Tarpon clousers with flashabou bodies on Gamakatsu hooks. These are 4-5" long.
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thegubster |
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Nice flies Bill. I especially like that 1st pic. you showed. Sparse, I like sparse..and I had to learn that lesson myself. IT took awhile and yours look great!
I happen to fish them a lot too. A great fly...perhaps one of THE best! I even go down to a size #12 and tiny eyes for md-summer trout in the shallows/shadows. Saved the day more than once! Jeremy. |
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Very nice looking array of flies, Bill.
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Bill Lambot |
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Flyslinger,
I am embarrassed to admit that I have never heard of the pattern until you wrote about. If you can post a photo, I would love to see one. Best regards,, Bill Lambot |
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flyslinger |
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Bill here are some photos of the Cactus Charlie, aka Lafleur's Charlie. If you want tying instructions, go to Kurt Loup's website and click on
Lafleur's Charlie. http://www.loup-garou.net/flytying.html
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Bill Lambot |
Cactus Charlies-tasty | #13 | ||
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Flyslinger,
This is a nice pattern. The top tan flies would certainly be great for bonefish exactly as you show them. I am thinking about shortening the wing a little and also tying them in olive, brown, orange, lemon, pink and also white. Some with bead chain, some with small lead eyes and some blind. This would give you different sink rates for different depth flats. Tiemco 811S in sizes 4-6-8 and for permit size #2. The chartreuse in size #2 or 1/0 would be excellent for stripers. This pattern looks fast and easy to tie. The flies have a nice silhouette and also translucency. And finally they will be durable flies. Those are my criteria. Thanks for posting the photos. Best regards, Bill Lambot |
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casey |
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great pics and flies i see you use bead chain on some for eyes thats the way i tye them what wt fly line do you throw these with the hot water trick works
like a charm i like the weed guard ill give that a try thanks again Bill.... Casey
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casey |
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the tan ones might work for kansas bonefish carp does anyone else fish for these uglies, what flies Casey
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Bill Lambot |
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Casey,
For trout I am usually fishing a floating 444 Cortland DT6, Cortland Sylk DT6 or a floating Wulff Triangle Taper 6 on a bamboo rod. As an act of defiance I get the Wulff TT in screaming fluorescent orange. The trout don't seem to care. I know that this line weight is not currently fashionable and that many trout anglers use a 5 or a 4 weight for their primary rod but I like the versatility of a 6 weight especially for roll casting clousers and other streamers. For stripers a WF Cortland intermediate 9 and for bonefish a WF Cortland tropic Lazer 8 or 9 floater both on a fast 9' plastic rod. I never bring my lovely bamboo rods near saltwater. The hot water trick is great when you first tie up a batch of flies and also after they have banged around in you fly box and gotten all mashed and crushed and twisted. The weed guard is just a simple loop of 18-25 lb mono. Its a pain when you're tying but pays off over turtle or manatee grass. I only put them on bonefish or redfish flies. If I'm tying bonefish flies, I'll usually tie a dozen with weed guards and a dozen without. Every redfish fly now gets a weed guard. They are a necessity. Best regards, Bill Lambot |
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casey |
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thanks bill great fisn Case
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BruceHandley |
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Casey, yes I fish for carp from time to time in Lake Champlain. But then my all time favorite fly target in the summer is the Bowfin. Both the Carp and the
Bowfin get much larger than any Trout your apt to see. And I fish for these two fish by choice, not because I have to, I live on a first class Trout river.
I've fished for a lot of different species, in a lot of different places, and I truly believe that the common Carp is one of the smartest fish that swims.
In fact, the Grass Carp in Fla. have , to date, beaten me hands down but I'll keep trying.
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casey |
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grass carp will on very rare occasions hit a garden hackle worm and even a small spinner in 48 years or so of fishing i have hooked two that way both were
better than 4 feet long i would guess anyway did not have them on very long the last one came out and tailwalked like a tarpon 4 lb test did not hold have not
had any luck with fly rod all the carp i have caught on fly was with a minnow immitation they are not supposed to eat minnows they do fight very well Casey
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bill
thanks so much for posting them pictures , i'm going to tie a few small ones , i might be making mine to thick , i know and have read that sparser is better , again thanks , like them all and i bet you do catch lots on em
Richard
Check out my web site for vintage reels & rods , guided float trips on canada's # 1 best trout river http://bowriveradventures.googlepages.com/home |
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