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cyangler	When its NOT Boo?		Lead	[-]
Posts: 10 01/30/2009 18:12	Tags : None Thought it might be interesting to see what we all fish when we choose some other fiber. When I started out I had some good advice on glass. Had a couple of nice Shakespeare translucent almost transparent brown rods, thin walled, and rapidly moved to Fenwick's chocolate brown rods. Bought a light grey Lamiglass graphite and have stuck with carbon fiber when not using cane since then. Have had other graphite's including an Orvis 8 Foot Trout and an 8'9" Western Series. Loved my Orvis cane "Alas" listed in the Your Rod Collection thread (Collecting Bamboo Fly Rods) and just recently reinstalled an Orvis nameplate to my graphite quiver. I've noticed T&T and some of the other high end limited manufacturers are getting back to fiberglass after leaving it to private builders - for the most part - for a good number of years. Would enjoy hearing input on glass and other synthetic rods. My current graphite's are lited as follows: Thomas & Thomas LPS 6'6", 3wt [may be parting with this one] Orvis Superfine One Ounce 6'6", 2wt Payne 6', 3wt (DT3/WF4) Redington 5 pc Wayfarer 7', 3wt but prefer casting with a 4wt 444 Sylk Bacon Rod Co. multi-pc 8'6" & 9'6", 3 - 8wt Bacon Rod Co. 9' Boron/Graphite, 4wt (casts 3 - 5wt) Leonard 866G multi-modulus 8'6", 6/7wt Leonard Golden Shadow 7'6", 5wt. ('78-'81?) perhaps Aroner years - extra fine taper grip Scott A2 9', 5wt Sage III RPLX 9', 7wt Bacon Rod Co. 9'6", 8wt Powell TiBoron XL 9', 9wt Warmest regards, Cy Last Edited By: cyangler 05/05/2009 15:36. Edited 10 times.
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bobbeegee		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2337 01/30/2009 18:34	Don't fish glass or hite. bob Go Heels!!!
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clarkman23		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 60 01/30/2009 19:38	I fish glass a fair amount...certainly not as much as cane. I have this great old Wonderod 1290 from 1953 that's a fantastic streamer and nymphing rod. I also have a Steffen 8' 5/6 wt. that is a great float tube (also a do-it-all) rod. I still have an 8 wt. super fast graphite rod for those rare times I head over to salt and the occasional chrome...I would say that within the last several months I've dusted off the glass rods a fair amount...just so I can justify keeping them around. In doing so, I had forgotten how much I actually enjoyed the wonderod.
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bulldog1935		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6791 01/30/2009 20:04 Bulldog1935	I fish cane for trout, primarily 8' and 8-1/2' rods, Heddon, South Bend, Thomas, and my shortest streamer rod, a 7-1/2' Farlows Armourcane parabolic. Occasionally reach for my 9' Fisher 3-wt. I fish glass in the TX hill country for endemic bass, primarily Phillipsons 6' to 7', some more glass thrown in including 7-1/2' Cummings Water Witch and Tonka Queen cane. In the salt I fish a Sage RPLX7, Fisher 8-wt, and two glass rods, a Phillipson EF80S and a rolled-from-scratch custom Japanese parabolic glass 8-1/2' 6/7-wt, Izch (Issac) 8667. the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is. Last Edited By: bulldog1935 01/30/2009 20:55. Edited 2 times.
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quashnet		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2409 01/30/2009 20:26 Moderatus Muscae	Built for me in early 1992 by Bill Franke, using a Fisher blank that was old news even then, this 8'0" pack rod was an attempt to come close to the feeling of my PHY Martha Marie in a rod that could go on the plane with me to Alaska to assist with fisheries biology studies of Arctic grayling in tundra rivers. I also have a Sage 890RP for salmon and saltwater that I bought new in 1986 or 1987. My two fiberglass rods are a Fenwick 857 that I bought new in 1981, and a Fenwick 756 that I bought at a flea market; it dates to about 1975. The Fenwicks are great but I only lawn cast them last year. Quashnet's Paul H. Young Rod Database has photos and descriptions of over 420 PHY Co. rods, plus catalogs, accessories, etc. Thank you to all who continue to send me PHY rod photos and info.
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firehole		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3684 01/30/2009 21:00 Local user	I use my Sage TCR 9' 4pc. 6 wt. and my Winston LT 8'9" 5 pc. when I'm fishing from my drift boat. I've seen too many weird things happen in drifting Yellowstone waters to warrant using cane. For Alaska float trips targeting big bows & salmon I use the Sage and a Winston BL5 9' 5pc. 8 wt. When I wade fish cane is the rod of choice. Dennis
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hookjaw23		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 113 01/30/2009 21:43	I fish glass and graphite quite a bit depending on conditions... locally in PA probably lean more towards the glass and out west sometimes you just need a strong 9' 5 or 6wt... My consistant non-bamboo quiver includes: 8' 4wt 3pc Mark Steffen Fiberglass (self built) 8'6" 6wt. 2pc. Sage SFL (early glass blank.. self built... i nicknamed it the "pool cue" but it's a SWEET casting rod and can take a bend like no other....) 9' 5wt. 4pc Orvis TLS 8'6" 4wt. 2pc T&T Paradigm 8' 6wt 4pc. Diamondback built for LL Bean... awesome rod with great factory cosmetics... bought for as a friend/backup rod but has made its way into the stable... hmmm... never really took the time to think of my glass and graphite rods but at some point over the last few years I ended up with 5 times more bamboo than plastic... interesting how that happens... -matt
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sharps4590		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 88 01/30/2009 22:46	While I have a few glass and graphite rods if I'm not fishing cane there are only two rods I use. One is a 7' 6" W. W. Griggs 4 wt. or a 9', St. Croix Imperial, 5 wt. Both are two piece graphite rods. I still have my old Eagle Claw 6 wt. glass rod.......maybe I oughta break that thing out this year. It hasn't been fished in 15 or more years! Vic
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greendrake ll		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1043 01/30/2009 23:43	I have only owned 1 graphite rod in my life;an 8'3" 6wt built on a Leonard blank.It gets fished once or twice per year for smallmouths.I still own about 1/2 doz.fiberglass rods,only 2 of which get fished: A Fenwick 7' 4pc 5wt pack rod bought the first year they started selling the chocolate brown rods and a Russ Peak 6'6" 4wt.There are several bamboo rods that I would let go before I ever got rid of the Peak. 95% of my fishing is done with a bamboo rod and it's been that way since I got my 1st one at age 16 in 1964.
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john channer		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 702 01/31/2009 00:16	I have one fiberglass fly rod, an old Phillipson made JC Higgins that was my fathers. While I once used it fairly regularly, I now build my own bamboo rods and fish for trout instead of bass. I used to have a graphite fly rod, but I loaned it to a guy about 8 years ago and haven't seen it since. john
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SAltsh		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 83 01/31/2009 00:17	Haven't fished my graphite in a few years, but have a few glass rods that I use whenever I don't fish bamboo - I especially like an 8'3" 3 pc. 5 wt McFarland that's a great early season and high water rod that's gotten a lot of use in the last 2 seasons. I also use a Scott 7.5' 4 wt. a bunch, as well as a 7' 4 wt. Lami. I really enjoy glass rods for anytime when for 1 reason or another I might get more uptight with one of the bamboo rods, especially small slippery streams where I have a history of falling, or where I might get hung up a lot, as well as certain water where I end up slinging a lot of weight, big nymphs, heavy 2 nymph rigs, weighted streamers, etc. Regards, Steve
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gmflyfish	Fiberglass and Boron	#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1119 01/31/2009 09:58	I have a few Glass rods all 7'6" in a 3-4 wt. range and use them in the winter and sometimes in the summer on small streams. San Francisco Winstons and a Hardy Fibrelite. I have a full range of Rodon Boron rods which are the closest thing to Bamboo in a plastic rod in my opinion. Gregg
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Eric Peper		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 117 01/31/2009 10:22	My favorite graphite for wade fishing is a Burkheimer "Trouthunter" model, 8'9" for 3-4-5 that I fish with a DT4. It's rigged with an LRH and in the back of the pickup for most of the season and gets used "opportunistically." For driftboat fishing (See Firehole's comments about rod longevity in boats.), it's a ca. 1990 6-weight Sage GFL 690-4 that'll do most everything. There's also a pair of 3-pc 8'6" Hardy Ultralite models in the quiver (a 4 and a 5) that are awfully nice rods. My wife fishes the 4 most all season. EP
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RPL		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 100 01/31/2009 10:41	I have graphite for salt water flats fishing and, like others here, for occasions when there's risk of damage to a bamboo rod. When I overline my Thomas and Thomas 9', 8-weight Helix, it begins to cast a little like bamboo . Also have an old 10 1/2 ft., 8-weight Fenwick HMG 3-piece graphite when I go for distance on salt. I think the Fenwick is one of the earliest graphite rods. Has characteristics of bamboo in that it moves a line slowly and far with much leverage and then mends the line gracefully. It reminds me of one the basic reasons why longer fly rods, whether graphite or cane, can be a pleasure to cast. For those rare occasions when I would use graphite on streams or when a smaller packable rod would best suit my needs, I do have a Winston LT 8' 3", 4-weight, 5-piece, which I haven't used now in three or four years. Last Edited By: RPL 01/31/2009 11:26. Edited 2 times.
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birddog		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2 01/31/2009 10:53	I have an 8.5' hexagraph that I use for shad,smallmouth and some driftboat fishing,a very nice action
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corlay.fiberglassflyro...		#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 14 01/31/2009 11:18	I own 15 or so fly rods, all vintage Fiberglass (Fenwick, Browning, Berkley, Cortland, Wright & McGill), except for one modern one (Diamondglass); with only one bamboo rod. I really love Fiberglass, and prefer it over graphite. I really like bamboo, too; but it seems that I'm just a cheap-skate... "From my observations I think that most of us spend too much time worrying about our tackle and too little time learning the intimate characteristics of the fish and streams we fish most." - Ray Bergman Trout, New York: Knopf 1938
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ukey		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1 01/31/2009 11:19	I use my Winston 8.5 5wt IM6 3pc. #33479
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Bill Lambot	Plastic Fly Rods	#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 141 01/31/2009 11:23	Cyangler, I have a nice collection of about two dozen bamboo fly rods that I really enjoy but I only use them in fresh water with floating lines (mostly for trout) and I never take them out in the rain or on airplanes. All the terrible stories that you have heard about the bad things that happen to fly rods that fly as checked luggage are true. Every one. And then some. For fishing at long distance, with sinking lines and for saltwater I have 2 piece graphite rods. Most are 9' medium action from Orvis; largely Tridents with a few Silver Lables and T3s. I usually buy them new (that is not fished) but 2-3 years old. Every year they bring out a new improved premium line which obsoletes their previous top model and halves their price. The next year this happens again. Then I buy the rod that was originally $6-800 for $125 on Ebay. With the money that I save, I buy airplane tickets and go fishing. I don't mind being 2 generations behind the cutting edge of graphite technology and the fish don't seem to care either. I have these from 4-10 weight. For travel I have the same exact collection of rods in 4 piece configuration plus some 12 weights for tarpon. These I carry on. If you don't give them your rods, they can't loose them. The year that I landed in Acklins and my fly rods all landed in Long Island taught me a lesson that I won't forget. The mail boat from Long Island to Acklins runs once a week. I started fly fishing as a child with fiberglass rods and they are awfully sweet. I got my first one in 1956 when fiberglass was the new cutting edge. I fished fiberglass until the late seventies when I started buying graphite. I got into bamboo 5 years ago. My first fiberglass rod was a Phillipson 8' for DT6. I still have it and fish it regularly. Now I have fiberglass rods for lines 4-8 mostly 8' in the lighter lines and 8.5-9' for the heavier ones. They have a smooth, forgiving action that is hypnotic. I fish them mostly for trout. I will use sinking lines on them and I also fish them when its raining which I won't do with bamboo. I know many people say the rain won't hurt them but I can't bring myself to do it. So that's how you get to 70 fly rods. If you have them delivered to the office and only actually bring them into the house when you wife is out doing errands, it cuts down on the wear and tear. Once the pile gets to a certain size, the new additions aren't noticeable. Critical mass seems to be about 2-3 dozen. Best regards, Bill Lambot Last Edited By: Bill Lambot 01/31/2009 11:26. Edited 1 time.
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seattlesetters		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 559 01/31/2009 11:40	I started fly fishing with glass ... old Shakespeare rods, to be exact ... and moved to Powell graphite rods in the late 1970s. I fished Powell, Scott and Winston graphite rods until becoming disenchanted with the fact each new generation of "improved" graphite rods were actually less pleasant to fish than previous ones. I remembered my old glass rods, my old Powell Signature Series rods, my old Scott G-Series rods, my old Winston IM6 rods and how all were pleasant, technical rods with a smooth action. After talking about this quite a bit, someone inspired me to try bamboo, and I've never looked back. I was born to fish the lovely reed ... I just found out about it 30 years too late. I keep one old Powell 9' 5wt graphite rod for drift boat fishing. The rest of my rods are and always will be bamboo.
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WatercolorMan		#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1276 01/31/2009 13:33	Started with Bamboo around 1957. We used it to catch bass, I was 10 & my fishing partner was 12 he showed me the ropes. About 30 years later I bought the Orvis One Wt, I couldn't resist, my first and last Tupperware rod. Used it on the South Fork of the Snake, then took it to the Green. Then my son used it, I see it when I lode my gear in his van to go on a float trip. We never discussed it but I guess when I never asked for it back. . . . It would just be lost behind the cane rod tubes anyway. I have a big glass Fenwick I bought to fish in the Pacific, I haven't used it in 20 years, started using cane for that also. I got a 5'-3" Fenwick that came in a trade with a reel I wanted. It's an impressive 5 wt. and fishes well on the small water. My grandson used it but I'm building him a cane rod. So I'm selling the Fenwicks. I've talked about getting a long glass or graphite for the boat. My friend Marshall let me use his for a while on the Roaring Fork last Sept. and it was nice.
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cyangler	I See A Trend	#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 11 01/31/2009 13:45	Yes. Slippery rocks, luggage loss, and drift boats. Cane can take a wacking but, though good synth fibes aren't cheap these days, still easier to replace than vintage cane. I notice that the posts show a similarity in that folks are fishing a variety of makes for various applications. When I started out I approached rod purchases the same way I did camera purchases. System continuity. Same manufacturer, preferably same body, original manufacturer lenses, etc.. So, at first all my rods were Shakes, then Fens, soon replaced by Orvis tools. Somewhere along the way I became more nuanced in my preferences when it came to different applications. I believe this sunk in when I began using cane. Though, the seeds were planted earlier It was my brother who taught me how to fish - with one of those early choc brown Fenwick pack rods mentioned in one of the posts. It cast with what by brother described as a "traditional" bamboo action. Well, I think we all know what he meant without having to dissect the term. It was that sweet, smooth, hypnotic action, also mentioned in one of the posts. I guess it stuck with me, but I also must have sensed intuitively that I would face applications that would be better met with other rods. In any case, variety it seems is the spice of life. I too seem to use the synthetics more for long rod applications. Drift boating, brackish estuaries, sometimes I like them for bank fishing where I may have to lift a fish in order to release it. I've never fished the Rodon Boron rods but, the Boron Graphite I have was built using a B2t flag and is of all my graphites, including the T&T Light Presentation Series, the most cane-like to my mind. The Hexagraph sounds interesting. I'd like to try one. Seems like it might, perhaps, resemble the feel of a bamboo quad --- any thoughts on that? Last Edited By: cyangler 01/31/2009 13:53. Edited 1 time.
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