Just by way of information, how many board members will be going to the discovery auction and will be staying over or coming to the dealers show?
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Posts: 1136 02/07/2009 12:44 Crusty Old Fart
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Posts: 127 02/07/2009 12:59 |
I'm in.
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hopkintoncane |
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Posts: 319 02/07/2009 13:12 |
would not miss it
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mahbs |
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Posts: 4 02/07/2009 13:19 |
Of course two germans
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Posts: 35 02/07/2009 13:54 |
George Guba and I will be at the auction and setting up at the Dealers Show.
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Posts: 696 02/07/2009 13:58 |
I'll be there.
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FlymanDan |
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Posts: 223 02/07/2009 16:58 |
Be there or be square
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HERMES2069 |
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Posts: 490 02/07/2009 19:16 |
Please respond to Bob Perry and The Boxborough Holiday Inn.
flysupplies@yahoo.com |
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Dustnstuff |
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Posts: 259 02/07/2009 19:28 |
I'm in, Bruce. I thought the dealer show had been canceled. Seems I read on this forum that the changes made for April would end the show. Also no viewing
of the main auction stuff. Did I read this wrong?????
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Posts: 830 02/07/2009 19:56 |
Bruce, If work permits, I will skip the discovery auction but drive up Friday A.M. with the sun. Hope to see you outside the double doors on a nice Spring
morning.
Charlie The brook runs over the bones of the planet and carries the sky on its back…. Odell Shepard |
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Posts: 2429 02/07/2009 20:34 Moderatus Muscae |
I hope to be there for the dealers' show. Less likely to be at the discovery auction.
Quashnet's Paul H. Young Rod Database has photos and descriptions of over
420 PHY Co. rods, plus catalogs, accessories, etc. Thank you to all
who continue to send me PHY rod photos and info.
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teter |
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Posts: 1198 02/08/2009 00:08 |
I like the dealers' shows better than the auctions. I plan to be there. |
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Posts: 1791 02/08/2009 10:41 |
We'll be there for the discovery auction, but we're undecided about the show and the overnights.
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Ray Hencken |
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Posts: 164 02/08/2009 11:36 |
I will be at Lang's Discovery Auction and will have a table at the Dealer's show. We all need to support the Dealer's Show by taking a table and
setting up or at the least attending the show to insure its continuation.
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jeffkn1 |
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Posts: 1792 02/08/2009 12:35 |
I think I'll play devil's advocate in this discussion, with my points based on firsthand experience at the shows run concurrent with Lang's
auctions over the last six years.
1)Five years ago, we did reasonably well at the show. We turned over enough items to recoup our seed money plus pay for our room. I don't know what people have been hearing for room rates of late, but we benefited from being a part of the block of rooms saved for Lang's so we were paying a reasonable $99 per night. By the end of the trip we had a tab of roughly $300 for our two-night stay in addition to display table costs. By itself, $300 is not a big deal but coupled with the dollar value of two days' vacation time, plus the investment in time to buy, prepare, pack, setup and break down the displays, means it didn't take me long to realize that social interaction or not, I needed to sell enough to cover my costs. The first few years it was either close, or just into the black so the socializing was a bonus. Then Lang's changed to an earlier start time (11AM) and we lost 2 hours, from what had been 5 hours before, of good floor traffic. There went the 'balance sheet'. This past November was the worst, with Saturday floor traffic being scant at best despite some world-class collectibles on display in the show and in the auction. 2)Lang's supported the show through print and website promotion, making tables at $60 each a pretty good value. Tens of thousands of people in the Northeast were well aware that there was an antique and collectibles tackle show going on for two days that included many of the collectible fly tackle dealers in New England, as well as dealers and rodmakers from the Great Lakes (John Picard, for example) and as far away as Oregon. And the Holiday Inn provided a security guard overnight so we could leave most things as they were. So, having said all that I have to ask why folks think that a show with no promotion and no auction to attract floor traffic can serve as anything more than a meeting place? Given a fixed cost of approximately $200 per day to be there (and that is conservative figure), which seems like a better $200 value: a day standing on concrete followed by a night on a lumpy mattress, or a day at a wilderness fishing camp that provides me with three meals, water with restricted access, native brook trout, and a log cabin with showers and maid service? My friends and I can socialize at either one. I haven't heard anyone suggest piggybacking on an NFLCC show or an ORCA show, with which at least some promotion would be part of the event. OK, your turn! |
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HERMES2069 |
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Posts: 491 02/08/2009 14:04 |
JeffKn1 has a few good points.
I live within 30 min.of the Holiday Inn . Our Tu BOD is wondering if the traffic will be the same as a function with the Lang's Auction going on. The fact that the Discovery auction is Thursday, gives the SCS a little publicity. Local fly shops have expressed interest in having a booth. Fly tying organizations have also expressed interest. If someone can put together a press release, I will make sure it gets in the News Papers. I saw John Gunung Saturday at the Worcester Sportmens Show. Maybe with some kind words we can get Lang's to throw a little publicity into there future Mailings. The Holiday Inn does not want to loose this event. Security should be included in the table charge. Phil |
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hopkintoncane |
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Posts: 324 02/08/2009 14:40 |
Perhaps we should consider this event to be just a "bridge" to something else. If the rest of the auction is truly going to stay virtual, perhaps we
could convince Lang's to consolidate the Discovery into a a larger, once a year event, say in June, in an area with a more conducive outdoor draw, like say
just off the Mass Pike in Lee. That would place the event in a place and time where attendees could do the auction, attend the show, and perhaps take
advantage of some good early season fishing morning and evening on the Hoosatonic and the streams on surrounding hills. The move might attract more of the New
York/New Jersey crowd, which Lang's and the dealers might like??? Just a thought, Todd
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Posts: 1137 02/08/2009 16:13 Crusty Old Fart
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In ans. to jeff, without the dealers show where had you planned on selling those odds and ends that you pick up in local auctions? This year there wont be an
auction to distract people from the show, however you are correct that we will be going it alone without Langs exposure. However if we didn't try to save
the show, then it would be DOA for sure. Do I know what the future holds, hell no, but I think I know what the future will be without the show.
There are times when makeing a buck isn't the most important thing in life, sometimes you take a stand for the common good. In all the years I've attended the auctions, and I'm not a dealer, I've never given the bottom line much thought and thats a good thing as I know that it would be very red in color. Anyway, with or without you, I'll be there with a table, what I'll put on that table I have no idea, perhaps nothing. But I'll help where I can and I must say that I think your position is a bit short sighted. Bruce |
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Posts: 668 02/08/2009 20:17 |
Count me in Bruce. I hear there are some good deals to be had on Peerless Salmon reels.
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Posts: 961 02/08/2009 20:21 Angry Andy |
Date, time, and place of the show?
"You can't make new old friends"
 Andy
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Posts: 36 02/08/2009 21:42 |
To me this years Dealer Show is more about what is going to happen in the years to come rather than, will this particular Spring show be well attended and
profitable for me. Because I believe that by participating in or coming up to this show it will give us (dealers and interested others) the opportunity to get
together to discuss this situation. It would be much easier to have a face to face general meeting / get together on the show floor on Friday or Saturday and
voice our suggestions and opinions for where we go from here rather that trying to do it via this board, emails or phone conversations where too much gets lost
or misunderstood. If we miss this opportunity we may lose it entirely.
My friend George and I are willing to travel up, take 4 days time and spend the money to keep this show going. Hopefully others will see it this way. Bob Kayes |
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