Thanks
Jeff
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Dolfinus |
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I am currently reading Caddisflies by Gary Lafontaine. It is a very detailed and amazingly fun read. Maybe some of us who post here even had the chance to
fish with Mr Lafontaine. I have several questions. First, is the information still pertinent? He describes using Antron, and its special properties to
attract fish. Is there anything similiar now used, or perhaps even better? Also, he mentions using a white marker to color the leader white to mimic the silk
Caddisflies can produce. Has anyone ever tried this?
Thanks Jeff |
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I fished with Gary (with and without his dog) a number of times. I found him to be one of the most engaging and observant people I have ever fished with. It
could, however, be hazardous to one's heath.
As far as Antron goes, I still use it, more or less liberally. In spite of rumors to the contrary, the fish haven't become any wiser since it's use began. I never saw Gary use a white marker on his his leader, but that may explain why he caught fish about 3X more often than I did. |
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Lafontaine's deep pupa and sparkle pupa work very well. You can get the "official" tying material for those caddis imitations at his former
internet store, thebookmailer.com. (no relationship, I just made a couple of successful purchases from them.)
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Eric Peper |
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I fished with Gary many times and worked with him on his books a bit. The Antron/gas bubble thing arises as a point of contention and discussion often on
various forums. All I can tell you is that I got one of his very early sparkle pupa flies in the late 70s, and I did a fair amount of experimenting with it.
Properly used it is a killer, and the pattern still is to this day. As an aside, a few years after that initial contact, Gary and I were tying in his basement
prior to a day of fishing. I tied one of the floating sparkle pupa patterns and asked him if I'd done it right. His reply was, "Yeah, you've got
it right, but it's too neat." The Antron has some unique properties that make it suitable for sunken flies. For floating patterns, I believe the
John Betts/Blue Ribbon Flies Zelon is better.
As to the white marker on the leader. If Gary wrote about it, I'm sure it works. Personally, I've never wanted to catch a fish that much. EP |
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One of Gary's flies was the black fly larva. He used the white marker with this fly, as these larva suspend from rocks in the the stream bed by what looks
like white silk. He fished the black fly larva in the Adirondacks and the New England States as these little blood suckers are common to those streams. Google
the Book Mailer.com you will find the marker for sale there.
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dry side |
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I have been using the white marker for several years, but not for black fly larvae. Mark your tippet with two to four inch-long white marks about one foot
above your small and/or dark point fly. Works well and saves you the trouble of a strike indicator.
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nativebrownie |
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Would any white marker work? Thanks...
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sanspareil |
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The white marker trick seems to work, I do not get to fish often enough to really test it out.
Here is the correct marker- http://thebookmailer.com/...eMarker/whitemarker.html Mike |
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I fished with Gary one time and had a number of conversations with him at other times. His go-to fly seemed to be what he called the ESP - the Emerging Sparkle
Pupa. I've always had some of those or something similar in my box and have had great success with them. Some of his other flies, I'm not so sure
about. They work on occasion, but no better than other flies. He was a great innovator, and as such, had some successes and some failures. As to the white
marker and blackfly imitations, I think that was a bit of an author's gimmick. I admit I haven't tried it, but poking a bamboo rod tip to the stream
bottom doesn't seem like a good idea.
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Dolfinus |
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It is a fun book with lots of observations. To actually study it, it is a slow read. I mean he spent a lot of time scuba diving to come to some of his
conclusions. A whole lot of effort. Has anyone else done anything like this? My goal is to try some of his ideas out. Not competitively, but just out of
interest.
Jeff |
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Eric Peper |
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Dolfinus wrote:McClane spent a lot of time lying on the bottoms of trout streams in a wet suit to come up with some of his conclusions and opinions. Few had anything specific to do with flies, but a lot of his conclusions about leaders are based on this kind of research as well as his findings on trout feeding behavior. EP |
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Ralph Cutter of Calif. has recently come out with an excellent DVD, "Bugs of the Underworld" that has lots of underwater footage of insects. Ralph
has also spent a lot of time underwater observing insects and fish over many years. He has many fascinating new suggestions for fishing that come from what he
saw (and now we can see) underwater.
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mmorris236 |
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I must get a copy of that CD, (my inner geek is shrieking "I want it NOWWWW!!, OK my outer geek is pretty interested too). I have never met nor fished
with Gary LaFontaine but discovered a pseudo close connection recently. In an old book on Trout there was a chapter on caddis flies that Gary wrote. The book
predated his CaddisFlies, by about 15 years. The opening paragraphs talked about Gary's efforts to recruit a local to collect samples on a trout stream he
was fishing because it had such a wide variety that intrigued him. The trout stream was the Sudbury River in Hopkinton Mass, which flows less than a mile from
my home and is a hidden gem in many respects. I fish it rarely, because the stretches away from the bridges are difficult to say the least but I have caught
native brookies there over 10 inches long and this year caught a 5 inch rainbowe which cannot have been stocked.
The Sudbury is not known for its trout fishing, or any other fishing. The Sudbury river is best known for being the open sewer that the Nyanza Dye Plant dumpoed heavy metals into for almost a century, aptly enough through a small tributary named, of all things, Chemical Creek.. Those who do not remember, Nyanza was the reason we have superfund sites. Nyanza was the first superfund site and it remains to this day the most expensive reclamation project ever undertaken. The cleanup was succesful, the site is properly capped, there is no more chemically contaminated drainage, Sudbury water quality is quite good. There is only one failure in tis project, from Ashland Mass downstream the river bottom mud is so heavily contaminated with mercury, cadmium and chromium that fish in the Concord river (formed when the Assabet and Sudbury Rivers join in Concord, about 15 miles downstream from the Nyanza site) and even the Merrimac river 20 miles further downstream, cannot be eaten. That situation will not be remedied in my, or anyone else on this board's lifetime. The metals in the mud do not effect the water quality, indeed some of Bostons drinking water supply is taken from the Sudburry Reservoir which is formed just 2 miles from the Chemical Creek outlet. The Sudbury system has become a very productive fishery especially for the Bass and is a wonderful river with many surprisingly wild areas when explored from a Kayak. Even with the metals problem we have to chalk the Sudbury system up as one of our enviromental success stories. Most interesting, though, is that Gary was fishing upstream of Nyanza at a time when the plant was in full swing and just starting to make the news as the environmental disaster that it was. |
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retrotrout |
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Antron gives lots of sparkle to dubbing. Most fly shops sell it by itself. You can add it, with wonderful results, to practically any fur dubbing: hare's
ear, muskrat, you name it. SLF (Synthetic Living Fibre) is a dubbing blend that sparkles. Probably has Antron in it. Hare-line dubbing has a whole series of
colors of rabbit plus antron which is terrific for underwater designs. These yarns were developed to add sparkle to carpets, and to make cleaning them easier.
I believe that Antron and all its clones are tri-lobal, and therefore refract light like a prism.
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The English author, John Goddard, writes well and spent a lot of time observing trout from under and over the stream (not as much from under as LaFontaine). If
you like "Caddisflies" then I think you will like Goddard's books too.
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