Hi Guys, Boy, that's a dandy Bulldog. Mines not so nice but it works well. I need to put a more usable line on it 'cause it doesn't see much
use. Shakespeare is my favorite tackle company. I love the old Russells with the adjustable pawls. I love the bait casters. I love the white Wonderods.
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What am I missing regarding Perfects?
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Posts: 7077 03/07/2009 00:08 Bulldog1935 |
those aren't mine, anymore.
they were too nice and too liquid to keep around, but the SB helped to pay off half about of a Dennis Stone rod... and both were functioning purrfectly sold it as the ultimate SB combo  
the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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Posts: 740 03/07/2009 04:19 |
I am in the "perfects aren't all they are cracked up to be" camp. They just look funny to me on a rod. I think the S-handled reels look quite a
bit nicer on a rod, too. I do like the larger Salmon sizes on spey rods. It's just personal preference though.
Respectfully Bulldog most perfects on trout rods are just expensive places to hold line, they aren't high performance "tools" for most people out there so I am not sure how applicable the "performance" argument is in most cases. I hate to admit this but for most folks it boils down to looks.
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Posts: 1329 03/07/2009 05:21 |
TJ has a point about what we each think about looks being a big part of choosing a reel.
My first pick is the Bougle, (perfect variation) looks and and they sound great and the fact that the newer versions work as a LHW reel giving me what I want in a reel. As far as performance I landed a 35 lb. Salmon on my 3.5" Bougle, sure felt like performance to me. I also like the looks of some classic reels. I have a S-handle reel, it looks good but prefer the perfects. To get the LHW I went with the Winston Perfect and the wider spool was just a bonus. I have to agree that hooking your silk fly line under your S-handle is a bad thing . . . . . . |
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Posts: 289 03/07/2009 06:29 |
bulldog1935 wrote:Beautiful reel! 
Wilfred de Bruijn
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Posts: 7079 03/07/2009 11:56 Bulldog1935 |
Thanks Wilf, as I said, I sold that reel almost 3 years ago now, and it wasn't easy.
I have seen only one nicer SB perfect, and it was a mint, boxed example. They were only made a few years before the war. fishing my St. George and Tonka Queen last year, I hooked up a 25-lb. black buffalo. It porpoised for 10 minutes straight - it looked like a Samsonite - and made two trips into the backing before coming unhooked. I was delighted with the whole experience and would not expect to land that fish on the rod without killing the fish or the rod. But where I live, 18-20" rainbows are also the norm. 
the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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Posts: 37 03/07/2009 13:01 |
I love the looks of the perfect. The fancy "S handle" reels look nice as well, but I believe they only belong on a salmon rig (ah-la bogdan), and
living in Montana, I don't exactly go salmon fishing very often. The exposed spool for thumbing additional drag is really nice since there is no worries
about hooking your thumb on a handle. I really detest the whole "performance" argument for newer reels. Who cares that you have an infinitely
adjustment drag with low start-up? The perfect style reels have the same thing but they were designed a century ago. It is an amazingly smooth click pawl drag
coupled with thumbing, not to mention the un-matchable sound of a running fish. You don't even crank down that far on the newer drags anyhow...your weak
link is your tippet so any more drag than the tippet allows just breaks off a fish. I own a dingley perfect, a red agate young's perfect, and I have a
Hardy from the 30's I believe on the way. That Hardy is going to replace my Peerless 2 as my go-to reel because of both function and looks. I cant thumb
that s-handled peerless if I stick into a big brown.
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Posts: 60 03/08/2009 10:49 |
I don't own a Perfect yet - but I will because of all the great things people say about them fighting fish. But regarding their looks, I think they are simple elegence in a fly reel and look great on cane. Jbarnice is correcct about the disc drag reels in that you don't need all that drag (bad for tippits). Mostly though disc drags are not fun to fish (just my opinion) because pulling out line all day is a pain in the ass. I have been getting rid of all my disc drag reels and now just use click drags. |
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Posts: 19 03/09/2009 18:16 |
bamb00zler wrote:Mojo |
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Posts: 2752 03/09/2009 19:05 Moderator |
What am I missing?Mystic potency! |
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flysupplies |
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Posts: 1244 03/09/2009 19:22 |
> What am I missing?
If you are like the rest of us, a couple or 3 screws. If not, then you certainly are "screwed" (grin). Bob |
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Posts: 249 03/09/2009 20:08 |
PYochim wrote: it's simple they are "Perfect" 
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Flyman615 |
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Posts: 3117 03/09/2009 20:24 |
As an owner of too many fly reels of too many styles to count (and keep hidden from my wife), here's what you are indeed misssing when it comes to Hardy
Perfects:
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Posts: 948 03/09/2009 23:13 |
Flyman615 wrote:With all due respect, I suppose that all depends on one's working definition of the terms, 'best' & 'better' ... and I suppose the same can be said for aesthetics, cause folks do like what they like and as such, it's understandable that some might perceive Perfects to be uglier than a day-old goat. PYochim wrote:I think I might understand, PYochim ... 'Without tradition, art is a flock of sheep without a shepherd. Without innovation it is a corpse' ~ Winston Churchill The Hardy Perfect, be it a 'Hardy Brothers Limited', or a 'House of Hardy', or perhaps even a 'Hardy & Greys' Perfect, possesses two constants and those are, the name Hardy and the moniker, 'Perfect' .... a moniker which is and will forever be inextricably enmeshed with a Hardy surname that not only represents the oldest, but also the most prestigious tackle manufacturer ever ... period. Take another gander at Quashnet's exceptional Perfect on the first page of this thread and for the most part, you're looking at a reel that was fitted and built on a bench, by a solitary reelmaker who just may have proudly stamped his initials into that reel eightysome years ago ... the same reelmaker, who just a few years earlier than that, may have been a Tommy, trembling as he advanced toward German front lines at The Battle of The Somme. A Hardy Perfect such as Quashnet's is not only functional art, it is also a highly-personal and historically-significant item that if allowed, can and will take on a life all its own ... as in his photo. One of my favorite movie lines is from the "Field of Dreams" and I believe that it strikes a chord here ... just substitute baseball with Hardy Perfect: "The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It's been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt, and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game, is a part of our past, Ray. It reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again. Oh people will come, Ray. People will most definitely come" - Terrence Mann It might be said that we're currently living in a era that's being erased like a blackboard and hopefully, one that will soon be rebuilt ... speaking for myself, it's during times like these, that I find solace in things such as, old fedoras, my Grandfather's revolvers, Goodwin Granger's fly rods, Hardy's Perfects and yes, those secluded trout streams. Hardy Perfects ... remind(s) us of all that once was good, and that could be again. Oh people will come, Ray. People will most definitely come -- i.e., the desire and demand will always be there ... "Don't surround yourself with yourself, move on back two squares" ~ I've Seen All Good People ... by, YES |
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Posts: 94 03/10/2009 00:49 |
Very well put, Joe. The history behind the development of these wonderful examples of reel making art will keep the legions of admirers dedicated to their
preservation, and use.
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PYochim wrote:Excellent observation, PY ... I mean, I have put 7,000-plus rounds downrange with my primary concealed-carry piece, a Chantilly-era HK P7M8 and just like those Hardy reels, it also hasn't aged well ... as opposed to my other six P7s, which by the way, are unfired safe-queens ... 
"Don't surround yourself with yourself, move on back two squares" ~ I've Seen All Good People ... by, YES |
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Posts: 309 03/11/2009 06:49 |
PYochim wrote:Abused is abused, no difference between Hardy and Dingley there. My brass faced Salmon Perfect is 109 years old, is well used, has the most beautiful smooth patina, but is very well looked after and it shows! Wilfred de Bruijn
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Posts: 57 03/14/2009 09:07 |
I really like this type of reels, I don't have any Hardy Perfects anymore but I do have a small collection of Bougles.
Rest of the message removed, I had a genuine question and didn't mean to offend or cause any problems... CBO
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MFRS |
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Posts: 307 03/14/2009 09:51 |
I will try and answer CBO's question. This looks like the 1917-21 Hardy Perfect, collectable no matter what condition, for use or collection. These reels
are rare and in this small size, captures the largest number of light gear Hardy fisherman's/collectors interest and being a Perfect model, and a spin-off
from the original Perfect commands top dollar.
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Posts: 3129 03/14/2009 17:38 |
Shoeless Joe wrote:Kind of like an old P-51 jockey evaluating an A-10 Warthog? They are, after all, ugly...but "well hung"! However, if a recalcitrant tank is your immediate problem, call the latter. Flyman 
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