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Posts: 1926 06/13/2009 06:05 |
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Can you post larger pix? AFAIK, A&I changed to their Dolphin logo sometime around 1929 so this rod should predate that year. It does have that general 1920's Monty look about it. Nice. |
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Flykuni2 |
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Posts: 73 06/13/2009 17:00 |
hope this shot helps, thanks.
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Flykuni2 |
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Posts: 74 06/13/2009 17:01 |
Sorry, not sure on resizing on Photobucket, anyone know? -- once a photo is reduced there doesn't seem to be a way to enlarge...anyone?
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Housatonic Quill |
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Posts: 779 06/13/2009 18:08 |
It's not PhotoBucket that's reducing, it's Yuku.Use Photobucket directly, rather than through Yuku.
Start a Yuku message, enter any text you may want to appear before the pic, then open (in another tab or window) and enter PhotoBucket. Select the image you want. Mouse over the PB image, which brings up a series of codes below the image. Right-click on the IMG code, select "Copy," left-click. Go to your Yuku message, right-click at a space after your text, select "Paste" and left-click. Repeat the process as needed for other pics. This brings PB images into your message at normal PB size.
The more I think I know, the less I know I know.
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Dustnstuff |
M.C. Rod Co. Amherst MA. | #65 | ||
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Posts: 269 06/14/2009 13:00 |
OK, I guess it's time for me to tell you all about the research I've done on the early days of Montague City Rod Co.
1858 Horace Gray and Son started the rod making business in Pelham Ma. (abutting town to Amherst) Pelham has no post office (to this day), and the residents on that side of Pelham used the Amherst P.O. as an address. 1873 Clavin Gray dies at age 36 and the business changed hands with Joseph Ward taking control. Two local boys, Leander and Eugene Bartlett, were already working at the plant. Eugene marries the daughter of Joseph Ward (smart boy) and by 1880 he was running the place. 1883 Leander leaves to start Montague with Charles Hazelton and Bernard Farren, moving part of the operation to a bigger plant in Montague City. Eugene remained in the Pelham Plant and for about two to three years all the invoicing was handled through the Pelham office.( with the Amherst address) Rods were now being produced in the two different plants, and for those few years the rods bore the mark of M.C. Rod Co. Amherst Ma. 1891 they bought out Chubb. 1899 the bought the reel operation in Brooklyn N.Y. Early 1900's Varney joins the company. The reel seat that has been pictured which has been attributed to Varney (with the M.C. Rod Co. stamping) I would question. Maybe left over old stock the Varney used on those bass rods. Eugene pass away in 1925 and a few years later Montague was picked up by Ocean City. There's a lot of guess work out there about the early days of Montague/Chubb, but it all started with the Bartlett brothers. I have a lot more information in my file, to include early pictures, and catalogs from this period. Hope this helps, Dustnstuff
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Flykuni2 |
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Posts: 76 06/15/2009 14:23 |
Thanks, but it is PB sizing. Here are three examples of shots I sized on PB. I'm still getting the hang of working with digis. Interesting and fun,
it's the modern darkroom.
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Housatonic Quill |
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Posts: 780 06/15/2009 20:16 |
There seems to be a "t" in your code - which means that PB is transferring your thumb, which is all it took from your upload. (Now there's a
sentence that somebody from 20 years ago would NEVER understand!). You'll have to start over with PB.
In PB, just under the "Upload" box, you'll see a size selector panel, headed by "Reduce to" with a dialogue box. My bet is that you've currently got it set at 100X75 (the Tiny or thumb size). Hit the check mark and select 640X480. Now upload your photos to PB and follow the procedure shown previously. You'll still see a thumb shown on your album page, but now, when you left-click on the thumb, it'll transfer you into a full-scale 640X480 view.
The more I think I know, the less I know I know.
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Flykuni2 |
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Posts: 77 06/16/2009 12:17 |
Sorry all for taking this off-course, but perhaps it could help others. |
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Housatonic Quill |
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Posts: 781 06/16/2009 13:50 |
Nope - once PB has accepted your reduction instructions, you're stuck. To get any other size, you'll have to go back to your original and reload.
The more I think I know, the less I know I know.
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darrelll |
Varney at Heddon | #70 | ||
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Posts: 107 06/18/2009 20:29 |
I have a Heddon #10 or #14 I believe that was beautifully crafted including 1/8" cork rings. This is the earliest Heddon fly rod that I own. I was bowled
over when I saw the rod and immediately had to own it. Especially since it appeared to be unfished and in mint condition. I thought it would have been made
pre-WWI like the pre 1910 bait casters which also used the 1/8" rings. Could these rods have been under the influence of Varney? I guess I gotta dig out
that Heddon rod now too...
I find it hard to believe they would be using the thin rings in the 1920's when no one else was using the thin rings. |
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darrelll |
Geo. Varney Rod pics 9' 3/2 | #71 | ||
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Posts: 123 06/22/2009 17:41 |
Where's AJ Campbell... perhaps he's working on a 2nd edition, that would be fab!
I took some pics today of my Geo Varney rod which is a 9' 3/2 rod. Needs restoration. The pics are not good as I forgot to lower my ISO down from 1600 when I was shooting some friends at dinner in a dark restaurant. Nonetheless here's a couple of shots. I already put away the rod for now, so I don't feel like reshooting at the moment, I've got other rods to photograph as I'm really trying to thin out my collection. I keep finding more amazing rods that I didn't realize I owned, such as my Marvin Hedge 7'1" or 7'2" competition rod with the drilled cork and the thumb grip. Inspecting it yesterday, it is a Model 50!!! This has got to make it one of the rarest Heddons I own. Back on topic... Here's the pics. Sorry they are so bad... 
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OldCanerods |
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Posts: 73 06/22/2009 17:58 |
Flykuni2 wrote:Yikes! Is this rod marked as a Varney? I ask because I picked up an unmarked 8'6" rod a few years ago and haven't been able to figure out the maker. It's reelseat is exactly like your rod's seat. I've also noticed that the butt section is very light and have suspected that it is hollow-built. One of these days I'll weight it and post. |
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TheMontyMan |
Varney model... | #73 | ||
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Posts: 145 06/23/2009 01:28 |
Darrelll,
Your rod is not only a Varney rod, but it is an example of the Varney model. I can tell by those distinctive signature and intermediate wraps, and the hardware. This was Montague's top production model in the mid 1920's. Great specimen!! . . . Rex TheMontyMan |
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darrelll |
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Posts: 126 06/23/2009 10:44 |
TheMontyMan wrote:Yes, I didn't even recall I owned this one... It's been fun trying to find some of my rods that still elude me. I'm also looking for my Kosmics and Izaak Waltons that I think I have a couple of each... |
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OldCanerods |
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Posts: 75 06/23/2009 15:37 |
Rex,
How about Flyuni2's rod? Varney? Varney Montague? Montague? None of the above? |
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Flykuni2 |
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Posts: 82 06/23/2009 18:38 |
Monty was good enuf to move the Q&A on my rod over to App. and ID. Check it there, believe we're identified.
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TheMontyMan |
Moved to the Appraisals section... | #77 | ||
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Posts: 150 06/24/2009 00:34 |
OldCaneRods,
I thought it would get more attention in the Appraisals section, so I talked to Flykuni2, and hijacked his thread over to there at - http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com/topic/25523 Result... Definitely a Monty from the Varney era, based on a marked specimen with the same signature windings. . . . Rex TheMontyMan |
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OldCanerods |
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Posts: 79 06/24/2009 17:43 |
TheMontyMan wrote: Rex, Thanks, I didn't see that 2nd thread. So my next question is: did Montague make any hollow rods? I'm going to dig out my 8'6" Monty/Varney-era and weight the butt section. It "feels" a lot lighter than any solid cane butt rod I own. But maybe I'm just inhaling too much LA-LA-land air? |
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Flykuni2 |
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Posts: 83 06/25/2009 14:06 |
If Monty was hollowing-out fly rods that early, it's probably where we'll find Judge Crater. |
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TheMontyMan |
Hollow-built rods... | #80 | ||
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Posts: 159 06/26/2009 02:33 |
OldCanerods,
I have not run across any reference to hollow built bamboo rods in the Monty line. They had a line of double-built rods, marketed under the Powr-Built trade name. Also, Chubb had a line of rods with a steel wire running down the center of the rod. They were described this way,
"STEEL CENTER SPLIT BAMBOO RODS - Made from best selected Bamboo with a piece of finest tempered
spring steel wire extending the full length through the center of the butt, joint and tip, and firmly cemented to the wood, making them springy, elastic,
great casters, and practically unbreakable."
I don't think the steel wire would make them any lighter though!
. . . Rex TheMontyMan |
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