What makes a reel a classic?
-20 years from first production?
-no longer in production?
-20 years from last production?
-anything made by Hardy?
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When is a Reel Considered a Classic?
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 steeldog94 |
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Posts: 155 05/08/2009 20:35 |
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Posts: 659 05/08/2009 20:48 |
Quality and design.
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Posts: 7231 05/08/2009 21:21 Bulldog1935 |
when its current value exceeds the CPI of its original purchase price.
The only measure that is not subjective. CPI on the original value of this reel is about $125. NFS 
the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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Posts: 156 05/08/2009 22:42 |
Bulldog,
Nice picture! That is probably as good of an answer as any and better than most. The problem with this answer is that if you look at a lot of the high end reels on the market today $700-$800 is not out of the question. Whereas, if you buy a classic reel at auction you might get it for $250-$350; and if you were to escalate the reel's original price to today's prices it would more often than not sell for more than $250-$350 (I know, there are a lot of classic reels that sell for a whole lot more than $250-$350). So, I don't think we can escape subjectivity as part of the equation.
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Posts: 268 05/09/2009 00:04 |
I would surmise that if it is not in the collections of R-Squared (Rich and Ron) then it probably is not a classic...
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Posts: 67 05/09/2009 00:21 |
IMO...the design of a reel is what I would consider it being classic or not. Example would be the "perfect design". Whether it be Hardy or any
other maker, the design of the perfect reel is classic. Even the new Hardy perfects would be classics because of the design. Another would be the serp handle
design reels. There are a lot of new reels with the serpentine handle design that I could consider classic reels (Bogdan, Peerless, etc.......) In my mind,
there is a difference between the use of the term classic and collectable/vintage/antique. The difference being the design vs the age or collectability of a
reel. I guess what I am trying to say is that there is a difference in a modern classic and say a vintage/antique classic reels. Just an opinion as I am a
newbie to most of this anyway.
"And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you become fishers of men."
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Posts: 31 05/09/2009 01:44 |
bulldog1935 wrote:So a Hardy Perfect that sold for 140 shillings in 1932 would have to sell for more than $550.00 today to be a Classic? Almost anything in 'as new condition' would meet that criteria because of inflation alone. There has to be more to it than a purely monetary definition. I collect English Rifles. Not all of them are classic, even though they are old. You can pick up a Holland or a Purdy with a blindfold on and tell it is something special, just by the way it feels. You can pick up a Cogswell and Harrison and tell it is crap. Same age, same original cost, or close. Being well made is not enough either. Their is something else. Like Pornography, you may not be able to describe it but you know it when you see it. 
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baunvivant |
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Posts: 176 05/09/2009 03:21 |
my standards are loose -- there are a ton of them out there - and I think anything made before the WW II is an automatic shoe in. After the War -- I agree it
comes down to quality and craftsmanships, looks, etc.
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Posts: 417 05/09/2009 06:20 |
steeldog94 wrote:Should be: "What makes a reel a classic to you?" Personal opinion, nothing else. Only if we could all agree on a definition, a general answer would be possible. And I don't see that happening. steeldog94 wrote:See, even that doesn't work for me. Point proven...
Wilfred de Bruijn
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Posts: 1061 05/09/2009 06:35 Moderator |
What Wilfred just said.
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bow river |
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Posts: 1406 05/09/2009 11:14 |
what is a classic reel
any reel that is highly sought after by all you guys , thats what drives the price up on them and what makes them classic , only so many made and when there gone they don't makem any more i also think all bench made reels or hand made reels are in a classic group
Richard
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Posts: 414 05/09/2009 12:41 |
I found this in an old dictionary and feel it fits well:
Classic: an author or artist of acknowledged excellence, whose work serves as a standard, model, or guide.
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Posts: 187 05/09/2009 12:52 |
It's a good question, and like others, I think it mostly about personal opinion. For me, it's more about looks and function than value. My grandfather
used Pflueger and Hardy reels and that left a strong impression about what a classic is.
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Posts: 776 05/09/2009 15:05 |
PYochim wrote: Agreed. I think one thing that makes a reel a classic is imitation (the finest form of flattery?). Generally, no one copies the also-rans, they copy the classics. Take for instance the E. vom Hofe Peerless and Perfection, whose basic style has been copied by Saracione, Godfrey, Ballan, Bogdan, Adams, Bellinger and Janciuras, among others. I'm not sure exactly what makes a reel "classic", but to me, once you define it, the EVH Peerless & Perfection should be at the top of the list, with the Hardy Perfect not far behind. Dean.
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