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Want to start making reels
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 kermit |
See if you can find the CAD or CNC machines............. | #21 | ||
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Posts: 133 07/28/2009 21:35 |
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Posts: 1444 07/29/2009 08:44 Admin |
Kermit,
And what do those reels sell for? Mark
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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Posts: 1445 07/29/2009 08:54 Admin |
mer wrote:To a certain extent. Don't forget Garrison also used a slide rule to do his calculations, the computer of his day. I'm quite sure he probably would have loved to have the computing power we have today to do some of his calculations. Whether you use a slide rule, a calculator or a computer to work out engineering problems, they're all just a means to an end, or in an even more basic term, a tool. Just different tools, with varying amounts of power to do what tools do. When I learned drafting and architectural drawing 35 some odd years ago, it was done on vellum with a t-square, a pencil, some plastic triangles (my goodness, the horror of using plastic to accomplish a drawing), a drafting board and a drafting table. That was before I graduated to the use of a table that had an attached "t-square" or drafting machine - http://www.draftingequipm...ting-machines.htm. Then I graduated to actually inking my drawings. It could take quite a long time to complete a drawing, depending on how complicated the drawing was. I can now do the same drawing on my computer in roughly half the time. And, if I need to make a correction to the drawing, it is so much simpler to highlight the part I want to change and make my modification than it was to try and erase ink lines from a drawing and make the corrections. It's just a design and work tool. How well an individual uses the tool is completely up to the individual. Mark
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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Posts: 96 07/29/2009 11:38 |
What a mess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How the heck can Stan keep anything organized. Maybe if his shop was cleaner he could make his reels a little faster and perhaps they might be cheaper in price. Not to take anything away from his reels---They are incredible and Stan is an incredible craftsman. Just my observation. |
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richard kell handmade reels |
its no mess..... | #25 | ||
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Posts: 21 07/30/2009 14:00 |
.... looks perfectly organised to me ....'a craftsmans workshop' ....... great pics - thanks. In all seriousness I wish I were so clean and tidy with
as much room to turn. Twenty five years in the same workshop makes me a little cluttered, my walls are solid 'stuff' ... six foot racking starts six
foot off the ground so as to maximise 168sq ft. Suits me.
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mhackney |
who's shop is that? | #26 | ||
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Posts: 12 07/30/2009 23:04 |
Kermit, who's shop is that? Where did you find the photos? cheers, Michael
My fly fishing, rod building, fly tying and reel building blog: EclecticGuy
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kermit |
sbrusky caught on............. | #27 | ||
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Posts: 134 07/30/2009 23:34 |
From the book, BOGDAN
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mhackney |
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Posts: 13 07/31/2009 08:47 |
Thanks Kermit. It turns out that I live less than 45 minutes from Bogdan's factory. Does anyone have a contact for the author of the book, his name is
Graydon Hilyard. I googled for 30 minutes and turned up nothing. The reason I am asking this, is I am writing a book on reelsmithing. The text is nearing
completion. Now I am working on the photos and illustrations. I have been scouring the web, old books, etc looking for photos of actual reelsmiths in
operation. The photo of Stan and his shop is fantastic. I am going to contact Bogdan (I do have a mailing address for him) to see if they will allow me to scan
and use one or more of their photos. If anyone else knows of any sources/photos of old reelsmiths or shops, please let me know! I don't want to hijack this
thread or take anything away from this fabulous forum, but I have started a reelsmithing forum to help support the book while I am writing it and to provide a
focal point for reelsmithing. Currently it is hosted here: http://eclecticguy.com/forums It will be moving to its
new domain when I have the time (ha!) to transfer. That will be www.reelsmithing.com There is a hidden forum I use to post drafts of the book, the reel
drawings and templates, and my small group (14) of test builders are using to share their feedback and information. If you would like access to that, register
on the forum and then either PM or email me (here or there) and I can make arrangements. Cheers, Michael
My fly fishing, rod building, fly tying and reel building blog: EclecticGuy
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dennis.fiberglassflyro... |
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Posts: 231 07/31/2009 14:00 |
You might contact Ted Godfrey; he has a section on reelsmithing on his site -- and a couple of photos of his shop. Somehow a neat orderly shop is not as
evocative as the messy "craftsman" look.
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Posts: 2 07/31/2009 15:19 |
I started my fun in a friends garage. Quick tutorial on his part about how to operate the lathe and mill (all the basics) and off I went. All you need is a
vision of what you want. A pencil. Paper. Simple math skills. Of course you need a starting point. There are plenty of reels around to give you an idea of
what works. Look for machining marks as they can help decipher how its turned/milled. Be prepared to make a lot of mistakes during your trial and error
learning curve. Part of the fun.
Like Stefan says it is hard to make a reel by hand and keep the costs reasonable. My gear and pawl reels take me on average 35 hours to machine. That is the easy part. The work that goes into hand fitting, hand papering and polishing, in house anodizing, assembly and fine tuning add another 25-30+ hours. This is nothing but a labor of love. William |
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richard kell handmade reels |
I wonder if .... | #31 | ||
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Posts: 22 07/31/2009 17:52 |
I know its none of my business, tho can't help wondering from the photo if Mr Bogdan got his drums and frames roughed out for him elsewhere, ie his lathes
in the photos are small and light ....for finish turning perhaps, any local jobbing johnny would be able to rough from solid stock for him. Assuming of course
that he used solid bar stock and not custom castings, tho castings I think couldn't be anodised. Nice picture at the top .......very atmospheric. I come
from a background of model engineering (mainly steam) and horology, so hand techniques or old time analogue are how I think. I appreciate CNC (the value of
canned cycles etc) yet here the thread is started by a man asking for advice on making himself a reel in his home workshop at minimal cost with max enjoyment.
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mhackney |
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Posts: 14 07/31/2009 21:06 |
Hi Richard, Ron (the topic starter) is actually building a reel using my draft book and full scale drawings. There are 15 people from around the world building
their first reels! The only power tool my reel requires is an electric drill. The book has (will have) plans to build a simple drill lathe that is used to turn
the brass disks for the frame and spool. One apprentice has already completed his reel and posted photos on the Reelsmithing Forum ( http://eclecticguy.com/forums/index.php ).
My reel is very simple but it works well and is straight forward to build. Once you've completed one, it opens the mind to all sorts of modifications, updates, etc. cheers, Michael
My fly fishing, rod building, fly tying and reel building blog: EclecticGuy
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Holireels |
Reelsmithing | #33 | ||
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Posts: 81 07/31/2009 21:12 |
Pretty cool your putting a book together about reelsmithing. There really is not a lot out there on the topic. Most books talk about the makers and show the
product, but dont go into much detail about the making of the product. Your web site is a good idea as well. I hope it takes off and those that have interest
in making reels, join and use it to maximize their knowledge/skills in making reels as a hobby. I've been using the reels I've made this summer and
have caught a mess of fish now on them and cant help but smile thinking I made the tool that reeled them in.........probably the same feeling in making bamboo
rods for self use. -Holireels-
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sbrusky |
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Posts: 97 07/31/2009 22:14 |
Well said William, If you can make enough fixtures and have enough orders to fill it is possible to make many parts on one set-up and start making
some money. I think the key is to have enough orders. On my small turret lathes I can make 50 turned and tapped stainless pillars in about three hours. Thats enough for ten reels. I'm still trying to figure out how I can get a reel done in ten or less hours and not use any CNC. It's not easy. |
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sbrusky |
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Posts: 98 08/01/2009 13:40 |
Richard,
I agree, I do'nt see how Stan can make his frames with the equipment I see in those pictures. That's why I use rings and pillars instead of a solid frame. Stef |
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wefong |
makeing the frames | #36 | ||
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Posts: 26 08/02/2009 18:38 |
i would use a milling machine and a spin jig with a 5c step collet to hold the tube and hog out the slots just my 2 cents
Richard Westerfield |
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richard kell handmade reels |
methods in house .. | #37 | ||
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Posts: 23 08/09/2009 13:43 |
I never doubted Bogdans did their own milling - I mean getting roughed out say plus 1/32 inch mmc (ie max material condx) by someone with a big heavy lathe.
I've even milled on the lathe - a huge area ie ornamental turning in the 18th and 19th centuries was devoted to this .... google Holtzapffel.
....better have a look at this .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMycjk9fPcw
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FISHFEVER |
Stumbled onto a pot of gold | #38 | ||
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Posts: 1 08/12/2009 03:10 |
Hi Everyone
My name is Koos Eckard and I am based in Pretoria, South Africa. I stumbled onto this site by chance and am I glad that I did. I am very interested in making my own reels too and would like to know if there is plans or drawings available on the net that I could start off with? I was thinking of building a rather simple design first, just to get the hang of it. Please advise, because any help would be appreciated. Thanx a Million Koos |
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Posts: 15 08/13/2009 18:35 |
Koos, I am writing a book on how to build reels. I have completed a draft of the book that includes complete instructions and drawings. I have a reelsmithing
forum set up to help people. I make the book draft available to folks interested in building a reel and providing me feedback on the book so I can make it
better. Simply go to http://eclecticguy.com/forums/index.php and register. You then need to email or PM
me (here or there) with your user name so I can set you up on the private (hidden) book forum.
Get started! cheers, Michael
My fly fishing, rod building, fly tying and reel building blog: EclecticGuy
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FISHFEVER |
Michael You Beauty!!!! | #40 | ||
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Posts: 2 08/15/2009 07:42 |
Michael
Thanx for your help, its gladly appreciated. Cheers Koos |
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