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Well, I'm not sure if this is the right thread anymore for this but I am reading Eric Clapton's autobiography. In the first 200 pages I marvel as each
chapter unfolds that the man is still alive and apparently of reasonably sound mind. Not many would have survived long at the level of daily poly-substance
abuse that was his normal routine. Fascinating tale with an abundance of groupie conquests thrown in as well. He did describe his first fishing rod, bamboo but
painted green , he would take it out frequently just to admire it and was around 12 at the time. After kicking heroin he became a total slave to alcohol with
several episodes of blacking out during performance and all sorts of bixarre behavior as a result of drinking pretty much all day and night for several years.
He had acquired two new Hardy rods and while quite drunk early one morning was rigging up on the river Wey when he fell and busted a new hardy cane rod clean
off above the grip while a couple fisherman on the opposite bank turned their heads out of embarrassment for him. it resulted in his decision that he needed
help as fishing was the only thing besides guitar playing that he felt some pride in and that day he called his agent and was checked into a treatment center
in Minnesota. fascinating story thus far.
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Old Bamboo. DT and WF. LHW. Right minded.
The trout takes the fly, the line tightens and it's like I was blind, but now I
see.
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BlackHillsBill |
The Obvious and the Not So | #183 | ||
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Bamboo old or new. DT, though more often WF.
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Old vs. New
Old bamboo rods and new bamboo rods, I have both and reels as well. Over the years the relative merits of old vs. new have been discussed and debated here on a semi regular basis. Lately, I've been going through my small accumulation of rods and reels with the intent of weeding out those to which I am not much attached. My initial strategy was to judge these by asking myself if this one or that one is a favorite. It's not an easy thing to do when one also just plain admires a rod or reel even though I haven't yet used it much. There's also the practical aspects of will it hold a DT5 and which rod does it fit well and is it a rod that I'll be keeping? It's a slow process and I fear that even though I'll sell a number of them I'm likely to turn around acquire a few more. In one of his stories, John Gierach writes an account of how fellow author Dave Hughes was once asked to be a judge of new products at a fly fishing show. Hughes' response was that he was probably the wrong guy because all the things he liked were old. For some time I was pretty much of the same mind, I bought a few new rods but could just not come to look on them with the same affection that I had for one of my Heddons or Granger or Edwards though I'm not given to expressing my affection for a rod or reel in very romantic terms I am as vulnerable as anyone to the charms of a classic rod or reel. In "The Longest Silence" author Thomas McGuane writes "The biggest problem with fly rods is that they must not only meet all the physical criteria for the fishing you do but also inspire love." I now have a couple newer rods that I have come to favor if not quite love because we have fought and caught the trouts together, we are building that basis for a lasting and warm friendship. I think the older rods bring that experience with them and maybe it's easier to be comfortable with them like a favorite fishing shirt or that easy chair with the smoothly worn patina of use from the previous owner. These newer rods required some investment of time and effort by me in forming that relationship which will surely grow with more time and use. Both the new and old are worthy the difference being that as the owner of an older rod I'll be adding to it's history and as the owner of a new rod it's up to me to create that history and hopefully for someone else to add to when I have passed it on. |
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Boo.fiberglassflyro... |
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I like old rods as much as I like wearing someone else's old sweaty t-shirt. No way! I like a new fresh t-shirt to break in myself. Same with rods...give
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Boo,
Good for you and may I add that I am in awe of your couth sir. Truly I am. |
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Boo.fiberglassflyro... |
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Thank you. ;>] Would you believe I have a college degree, too? Really, would you pay $10 for a used t-shirt because it said NIKE on it
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BlackHillsBill |
Something old, something new, something borrowed . . . | #188 | ||
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I like analogies as much as the next guy. The things
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greg hall |
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To answer the question, I would not buy either the used T-shirt or the used rod for myself based on the brand name. For me brand names tend to be more
incidental while the suitability of the rod, or reel, to my needs and preferences carries most of the weight in my decision making. I think the same question
could be asked of those who prefer new rods. Is it the name of the maker or is it the rod which carries the most weight in your decision to buy?
That said, Boo has raised the subject of dirty smelly clothing and that's a subject I think we can all agree on. While there are certain to be a wide range of preferences in detergent, hopefully these will not stand in the way of the common good. To borrow a thought from our friend Drake Bob, "If we don't launder together, we'll all stink together."
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Hey Boo, mind if I join ya?
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Boo wrote:Just wanted to get you back on the same page. I know when I'm beaten. Thanks for the ride. |
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Laundry. Pfffftttttttt.... You wear a t-shirt, old or new, for a semester and then you throw it away. That's a trick I learned in college while working
on one of my diplomas.
All of this frivolity aside, what I've really been wondering about is the ultimate indicator of xx vs. xy chromosomes: gas or charcoal? I'm strictly a hardwood guy, myself. No gas and you won't even find a briquette at my house. I'll mix in hickory, mesquite or the like as the recipe calls or the mood strikes. "Briquette." It even sounds feminine. Although, I will admit that "gas" has a certain masculinity to it.
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Bob, I'm with you. When I was a kid the old man living next door to my grandparents had a good sized smokehouse. He often used applewood gathered from an
old farmstead orchard. I use gas and add a small pan of wet hickory chips with a sprig or two of fresh picked rosemary from time to time.
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DrakeBob wrote:You'll get no argument from me regarding hardwood but I use those feminine briquettes to supply the heat and hardwoods to supply the smoke. Since I make the best ribs in the world, and probably the entire cosmos, I'll stick with this combo
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Bob, Greg, mr. flymph, outdoor master chefs all,
I can't begin to tell you how much it has meant to me that you've finally brought front and center through this thread one of the truly great issues upon which the survival of American manhood--well, certainly American machismo--depends: The Barbecue. Gas-or-charcoal, heat-and-smoke, briquette-and-hardwood. It gets the blood racing to hear that kind of talk and to realize I'm in the company of real pros, not pretender-wusses. If I wasn't wary of raising the spectre of similar distinctions in the fly-fishing world, I'd go so far as to make an analogy. . . . Ah, but no, that's neither here nor there. Well, maybe here--because here we can roll up our sleeves and deal with the real stuff. The ephemeral. I now get my ribs from a place called Lyle's. Eat them more often than every two months, your lips get blisters, your stomach grows ulcers, and you need periodic help from a respirator to keep carbon monoxide poisoning at bay. But goooood! I tried hard (and hardwood) to cook them in my own backyard. I really did. Because being sensitive, as I am, I knew my manhood was at stake. And sometimes at steak. But it didn't work out. I had no aptitude for it. I've always needed lots of help to start a fire, then even more help controlling it when it finally started. The excitement of my barbecuing and grilling finally came down to when the ribs would slip from the tongs, the hamburger from the spatula, the bratwurst from the fork to be consumed by hot coals in a sort of Dante-esque allegory of burning in hell. There were other thrills, though, as well. My wife has an allergy to yellow jacket and bee sting. She is a magnificent gardener. Consequently the backyard is a paradise of perennials and alive with buzzing. We keep the shot kit at the ready of course. But cooking up meat on an open barbecue brings out aggression in yellow jackets that is unmatched except by a World War. Their macho is touched by it, too. They come finally to think of your yard as theirs, of your dinner as theirs, and of you as theirs also because you stand in the way of total and complete claim. It would be accurate to say they are adamant in exercising their rights, imperialistic even. Intemperate, mean, and surly come to mind. So we abandoned the barbecue. But we didn't go down without a fight. I bought one of those electric grills named after a junior welterweight boxing champion. The Kid Zucchini Grill. Kid Zucchini, normally a sour-looking fellow, always seemed so happy when using his. I do have to say that the meat really got cooked. When it was pried from the grill, all the juices had run off into a special tray for that purpose, also handy for burning your fingers. The grid pattern impressed upon your burgers (and often upon your fingers) gave them the aspect of having been run over by a tank on a hot desert asphalt highway. And you had to check your dental insurance before chewing. That is how we came to depend upon Lyle's superior survival instincts. Now, however, I can depend upon yours and leave my manhood to my flawless casts with my 6-wt Edwards Quadrate, my 5-wt Abrams, and my 4-wt Calviello. I like my burgers, brats, and ribs medium rare, tending more to the medium than the rare. But then, gentlemen of the backyard, you don't need to be told your business.
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Let's talk specifically.... "RIBS". Dry or Wet? My ribs (the best in the cosmos, remember?) are served in the dry style with only the secret spice rub and smoke for flavor. I am of the opinion that if ribs are served wet with sauce the chef is just trying to cover up the flaws in the barbecue itself. I will, however, serve some sauce on the side for the uneduacated consumer that believes that barbecue requires it. |
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Hey, you know me. I never bicker with a man's work
when I'm in the presence of a true expert. Your approach seems a very good one to me. I've been served sauces by chefs clearly anticipating a compliment and have been unable to find one anywhere or even to lie graciously. I've managed, though, to survive Bob's and Greg's dry wit for years, so I ought to fare well with your dry-style ribs--that is, if you can survive that pun. |
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Bill, Bill, Bill... you never stick a fork in a brat or anything else that the juices will run from. It's much better to use those tongs. As to the
burger on the spatula... you need a spatula with a softer action, make sure it's fully loaded and then it's just a simple flip... don't overdo the
wrist, there's some forearm involved too.
See... now I would have thought that a guy named mr. flymph would have preferred wet to dry. Shows you what I know. But I couldn't agree more... there is nothing worse than a fine rib slathered with sauce, sometimes to the point where you want to ask "can I have some rib with that sauce"? Terrible, terrible. Unfortunately here in the Northeast, over-saucing seems to be the preferred method. It's why we never get them out. It's like a lobstah with too much buttah.
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You guys inspire awe.
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