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Posts: 70 07/16/2009 11:44 |
Has anyone tried heat treating AFTER final planing? If so ,whats the temp and time frame? I got carried away and didnt think about it till I was about 20
thous. way from my final dem. on my fist strip. I can bring up another strip, but the idea has crossed my mind and I know someone will chime in here.
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Posts: 789 07/16/2009 13:06 |
you should be ok if you are 2o thous. over .you will get shrinkage but not that much. I would go about 325degrees and flip end for end at 7min with a roll
turn at 3min.for 15 min total remove the tips and cook the butt 7 more min. Dennis
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BigTJ |
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Posts: 772 07/16/2009 18:13 |
Those tips are tiny too much heat might over cook them quickly?? Having never done this myself I would just check the color regularly on the tips to avoid
over-cooking. I realize that your oven may not behave well under wide temp fluctuations, but I gotta think those tips will go pretty fast if they are 60 thou
or so.
As with anything along these lines the advice I always seem to get is to try to salvage what you are doing, and if that doesn't work, do it over. |
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Posts: 790 07/16/2009 18:15 |
Ive done this, and if you follow the time/ temp stated it comes out fine. once you get to 350 degrees its a different story.
Last Edited By: tapermaker 07/16/2009 18:18.
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Posts: 773 07/16/2009 19:28 |
Agreed Dennis, my experiments have shown that 350 is truly the magic number, above that things happen in a hurry. Trick is to know your oven and what temp you
are baking at. If you're just guessing the temp Lewis it's a crapshoot so go for it just be careful.
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Lewis B |
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Posts: 71 07/17/2009 04:58 |
Thanks folks, Everything worked out ok,but I`ll know when I cast the rod. I often find myself putting the cart in front of the horse, I get carried away. There
is no telling how much damage I`d do if I had a more modern set-up
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really glad that there are people on this board that are willing to help. Lewis
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Posts: 3151 07/17/2009 08:29 |
If I'm remembering correctly, Gillium didn't heat treat (or if he did not much at all). Not that it has any bearing on the original question, just
wanted to point it out.
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Posts: 776 07/17/2009 16:25 |
Lewis,
You can screw up a rod so fast with a power beveller it will make your head spin. All I can say is get used to mistakes this will not be your last. I am considering making an E-size flow chart of my rod making process and putting it up on the wall of my shop so I don't forget something major, yes I have skipped steps like you, and more than once, and probably everybody else has, too. |
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JE Dempsey |
Gillum ----Heat Treated, You Bet | #8 | ||
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Posts: 16 07/17/2009 16:26 |
Mer
I can't imagine where that came from. Pink sure did heat treat. I own all his equipment which includes two different types of heat treating set-ups. The first is a long T shaped burner used on the culms. about 5 1/2 ft long. The second is a small  burner that heated the strips then you straightened them
with the strip straightener, a tool not to different from a node press. Matter of fact most people that see it think it is a node press.
All of the Gillum glued joints I have, some 200 are heat treated cane. |
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Posts: 72 07/17/2009 22:33 |
TJ, Making mistakes is what I do best,but I know this board is the place to come to get help working around them. I know Im not though screwing up and I`m
likely to continue to do so as long as I`m healthy enough to work with my hands. If building rods was easy, it wouldnt be fun!!!
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