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Sal Fontinalis |
Goodwin Granger 8040 |
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I think I swapped a few emails with Flyman about this topic but has anyone seen, or owned, a Goodwin era 8040 with coke bottle grip and cap and ring seat? I've never seen one but the thought occured to me that it would make a lovely rod.
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Flyman615 |
Re: Goodwin Granger 8040 | #1 | ||
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Hi Sal:
You're right. And they are scarce. I have but one, a Special, in my Granger collection. It was restored by Dave Holloman. Regards, Flyman |
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Canewrap |
Re: Goodwin Granger 8040 | #2 | ||
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Mike Patterson is restoring one for me right now.
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CtKenC |
Re: Goodwin Granger 8040 | #3 | ||
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My guess is "Firehole" (Dennis) would have one or more.
Ken |
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tapermaker |
Re: Goodwin Granger 8040 | #4 | ||
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I`ve owned two goodwin 8040 rods with the goodwin rod stamped on reelseat. l thought they were beautiful, they were to slow for my liking. the tips were super thin at the tiptop. I was afraid to fish them. sold them both.
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fishnbanjo |
Re: Goodwin Granger 8040 | #5 | ||
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I had one and it is a Granger Special it now lives in LA with Flykuni.
banjo
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Flyman615 |
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Hey CtKen:
Dennis and I are fishing in Colorado this week. We're on the upper Big Thompson near Estes Park tomorrow. Uni is joining us and perhaps Poudre (Dave) as well. FWIW, Firehole says he's never owned an early s/b Goodwin Granger 8040, however. Regards, Flyman |
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Booman2 |
Granger 8040 | #7 | ||
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Holy hot doo-doo. I just bought one at 2:30 today, a 8040 Special. Mine has the correct brown tube, cloth bag, decal and everything. All sections straight and full length. Reel seat is the screw type uplocking type. Label is "Goodwin Granger Co. Denver, Co.The only defect is a small chip out of the front end of the cork grip.
For the non- Granger fan, it's a 8 footer, 3 piece, 2 tips, nickle silver ferrules, 4 ounces. The tips (over varnish) are about .078. Any ideas on current value? |
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thegubster |
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Quote: Booman..I'll venture a guess as to the most I'd go for it...an 8 footer in a 5wt...maybe a 6wt. $700 or $750 tops. I'm looking at a fishing tool. Couldn't care less if it had the orig bag etc. as I wouldn't plan on reselling. ( I know, I know...) Jeremy. |
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Sal Fontinalis |
Re: Granger 8040 | #9 | ||
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Thanks for the feedback. Is anyone willing to post pics?
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gofish60 |
Re: Granger 8040 | #10 | ||
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This discussion made me get my 8040 GG Favorite out and cast it.
As stated earlier by someone else, the action is a bit too soft for me, but the rod did a great job, going out to 50 ft. or so easily with an older ivory TT4/5 line. Balanced well with a 3" Adams. gofish |
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tapermaker |
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heres the taper of the early "Granger rod" i talked about on the earlier post.
butt mid tips 0- .332 .222 .140 5- .332 .212 .132 10- .314 .200 .118 15- .282 .188 .104 20- .272 .177 .090 25- .260 .165 .076 30- .248 .153 .062 35- .234 .144 .046 smooth casting med slow action 4wt |
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Flykuni |
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Indeed, the Canefather did gift me greatly with a moderately-priced Goodwin 8040. It resides with me still. It has fished only twice, but both places were beauts.
One was the Hot Creek Ranch, a springcreek haven for the tchnical trouting fan. And then the rod journeyed up the grade to fantastic Tulomme Meadows, above mighty Yosemite, for a session on a tumbling freestone. It was a wonderful rod to use, and a wonderful piece of angling history to return to the water. It is a coke bottle-grip, slide band Goodwin rod, complete with original tube and bag -- exactly the sort Phil Snyder would set into his hands and examine. Old Phil would caress the rod. He'd go silent and contemplative. His eyes would grow soft. These were the rods he couldn't afford in his Depression-era youth in Utah. That's why, late in life, he collected (and restored when it was needed) every Goodwin Granger rod model ever produced. He once laid them out on his dining room table for me -- many were longer, 9'ers, and many sported shimmering blond shafts under Dwight Lyons' varnish. The Chinese red silks were a fantastical counterpoint to the cane -- it wasn't garish, it was perfect. Phil had them all. And lord, the man loved those old rods. When he passed many of his collection were sold. The best examples were passed on to his family members. This particular rod from Sante is not a medium rod at all. I was a little surprised as to its backbone -- yes, it favors the DT5 line, but it truly is medium fast on the flex. Perhaps it wasn't fished a lot, or perhaps the cane happened to have a goodly amount of stiff fibers. Whatever the reason I am proud to own the rod. And, I think of the kindly Phil Snyder, of Fullerton, California, sitting there in his study with me, talking over rods, reaching over to grab another aluminum tube. And no matter what the rod, the maker, the era, the length or configuration, Phil would say, "Here's another rod I like." |
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thegubster |
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Darrell,
"One was the Hot Creek Ranch, a springcreek haven for the tchnical trouting fan"....was that the same place (or more importantly was this the same rod....I don't mean to inquire about your location) where you once wrote a fine piece of prose regarding nailing one big 'bow on 6X and having to trot along the bank in order to land him? I remember reading that story when I first came online and close to when I began ff'ing. A good read. Jeremy. |
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Flykuni |
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Hey Jer., thanks for remembering. It was at the Ranch, but it was not the Granger rod. Actually, it was a shorter and much lighter stick, and looking back at the incident, I am quite proud of my self. Sniff, sniff, pats on mine own back. I think I'll have that extra piece of apple pie now, if you please. It was a legend in my own mind battle royale.
It was a pre-fire 7' Duracane, DT4, on 6x Dai Riki Velvet (one year old tippet), with a black, deerhair beetle, tied on a light-wire Mustad, 94833. All in all, I should not have been able to stay a'hooked to that monster. And given the rod, line, and hook I should not have been able to have brought it to net. Well, the net didn't fit the fish. Or vice versa. I had to step into the stream, which doesn't allow wading, when I realized that the huge fish wasn't going to fit into the opening of the net. I lifted the fish out, took a picture, and began to revive it. It measured out to a solid 24". It remains the largest rainbow trout I have caught. And released. The fight was long, I ran along the bank, I looked at the small rod as it bent, and lemme say it was bending to my hand. I kept rotating it, line was shooting through my hands like crazy, I stripped in, I used the reel, I lost line, I regained it -- and my pal had walked away and no one was there to witness it all. The reel, by the way, was also vintage -- a c. 20s Hardy Sunbeam. I remember describing it as "soldering on, an Enfield of a reel." I was younger then. It took a long time to revive the fish. I was glad when she swam away (I'm nearly certain it was a hen fish). It crossed the current, and disappeared 'neath the aquatic weeds there. I walked back through the warm summer winds to the cabins there. My pal David, another cane fanatic, was waiting there, talking with two other anglers. Turned out one was the late Andre Puyans. I got congrats all around when I told my story. Hey, thanks for reviving the memory! |
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thegubster |
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Yep, I remember it 'Kuni. And it was as good now as it was then!! Back then I was new enough (and long from cane) to be very impressed.
Now, I'm experienced enough to know what you did and better appreciate it!! Me. |
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Carlson Rod |
Goodwin Granger 8040 | #16 | ||
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I have several of these in my Granger collection. Two of them are "Favorites", one has the "Granger Favorite" stamped between the knurled bands on the reels seat. The other has the "Granger Favorite" stamped on the rod shaft, but has the earliest uplocking reel seat, that predates the Pat. Pend. markings and appeared for a very short time. I have one other example with this reel seat.
I have a very early "Victory" that I am going to post on the board for sale very soon. It also has the "Coke Bottle" grip and sliding band reel seat. Carlsonrod |
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Canewrap |
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What kind of action does the early Victory have?
Bill W. |
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Carlson Rod |
Granger 8040 | #18 | ||
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canewrap,
The rod has a medium action, maybe a tad slower than 8 ft. rods into the mid and late '30's but actually quite pleasant. I've only seen a couple of "Victory" grade rods with this shorter grip and sliding band reelseat, one other is an 8 1/2' rod I have. I imagine that is because the "Victory" was introduced around, or just shortly before the time the U/L seat was introduced and the longer more familiar grip was adopted. Rod is currently on the board for sale. Carlsonrod |
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Canewrap |
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I asked because Mike Patterson is refinishing one for me that is from apparently the same period as yours and he informed me that the mid is about .010 under what he would expect, based on past experience and is a medium slow action rod, rather than the typical medium fast action of the average Granger. I like slow rods that are not mushy, so this should suite me just fine. Thanks Dana, for the info on your rod.
Bill W. |
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BAMBOO FLY |
Simple question | #20 | ||
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Here is question for you guys, that have a little insight on fly fishing. My dad recently purchased a fly rod at a roadside market in Texas. It is a W.
Thompson (Thornaby-on -Tees). It is a 5 pc. fly rod with two tips. He has several bamboo fly rods, as a matter of fact, he purchased a bamboo at the same
place. This Thompson rod though, looks like it was custom made for someone, and doesn't even look like it has had a reel on it. I know Ron Thompson makes
fly rods in the UK. This is a much older rod though, and is built like a bamboo in some ways. Any information on this rod would be appreciated, Thanks .
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