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Berry Point |
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I got a bit over my waders last month when I had the temerity to suggest that another board member learn to cast with his other arm. As it turned out he
already does that. oops.....
Still, I wonder how many of us actually cast, routinely or not, with either arm depending on our position on a river, best line to target, wind direction,
etc. It's a useful skill indeed. I'm genetically sinister and like many lefties I'm generally ambidextrous--cast with the left reel with the
right, throw left but bat right, I use right-handed golf clubs, scissors are still confusing, etc.
So, 'fess up--where do you stand, so to speak, when casting under different conditions? (And then there is the whole matter of RHW and LHW reels and
switching hands but let's not go there at all!!) I'm a # 2 below, where are you?
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Zenkoanhead |
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I guess I am pretty close to a #2. I prefer left handed casting, but transition pretty easily to the right and soon forget about being off-sided. The really
odd thing is I that I cast some rods better with the off-arm! In fact, this is a pretty good litmus test for the castibility of a rod, to cast it off-handed.
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asullivangarner |
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Most intesting to me is that my left hand/arm casts pretty decent, but my right hand has no idea what to do with the line...
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greendrake ll |
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I'm with the Inspector on this one. I wouldn't even attempt to cast left handed unless my right arm suddenly came up missing.
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Greg Reynolds |
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I'm with the Inspector on this one. I wouldn't even attempt to cast left handed unless my right arm suddenly came up missing. Me too... It's the reason I can only use LHW reels. I can wind just fine with my right, but can't handle the rod with the left while fighting a fish. |
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Marterius |
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I can Spey-cast two-handed just as well on the left as on the right, but with a single handed rod, I would not be able to get five metres of line out with my
left hand...
Regards, Martin in Sweden
Like the hunter, the hawker and the fowler, the fisherman takes life in finding his pleasure. It is reasonable to ask
of him that he make it as keen and thorough and satisfying, as productive of growth in himself as he reasonably can. For only then can it be the strong and
sensitive pleasure of a civilised man.
- Roderick Haig-Brown |
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thegubster |
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I'm awfully RH , so much so that if I had to fish LH I'd likely quit. It surprises me to admit that openly.
If I get into a testy spot that needs a LH cast I'll do whatever I can to cast over my left shoulder to do as needed. And I'd do that all day long if I had to. I'm afraid I can't pick my nose LH w/o poking myself in the eye... Jeremy. |
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clarkman23 |
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I'm more of a single-handed type of person...funny thing is, I can shoot pool equally poor with either hand.
casting, however, I can do ok lawn casting with my left hand out to about 40' but once I'm on the river, I'm good for closer to 30' but they aren't pretty by any means and I rarely use it...instead I usually just backhand it... |
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Boo |
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I'm right handed when it comes to throwing and writing. Dribbling a basketball, swinging an axe I'm left hand dominate. Swinging a baseball bat I can
hit fom either side of the plate and while eating I can use a fork in either hand comfortably. Casting I prefer right handed but can adjust to left hand if
necessary. Kicking...I'm left footed. I guess that's why I have a hard time with these republican/democratic debates. I'll remain an Independent.
Now there's more than you need to know.
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djo |
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As a lefty I can cast with my right arm but am not comfortable. I suspect that left handed people are more ambidexterous than right handed folks. Many
lefties have been forced to develop reasonable off hand skills to live in a right handed world. When I was in school I worked in a golf course and was
surprised at the number of people that said they swung a baseball bat right handed but golfed left. I assume that their dad just taught them to bat right
handed like he did and when they started golf later in life they knew they was southpaws and had the pro set them up that way.
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Berry Point |
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David,
Good point about lefties and batting right. That's exactly it. Dad couldn't teach, and never tried to force me to throw right handed but he only knew one way to teach me to bat. I was later a pretty successful switch hitter in my baseball days but I was always stronger on my right side, the way I learned. But there was a twist when I took up golf. I tried both ways but found I was stronger and more consistent swinging as a right hander. Old habits die hard it seems. I'll confess, however, that my decent right handed casting came late. I had done it several times but not with any particular grace. One day while fishing with a buddy we were both working the same dead fall with several trout rising to BWOs. We were pretty close together. While I was in mid forward cast he moved and I was worried that I might smack him on the back end, so I just switched hands in mid cast--left hand for the forward and right for the back. I blew myself away with that little trick but he was stupefied and couldn't stop talking about it for the rest of the day. I resolved then and there to practice right handed casting until I could do it consistently and competently. I can't tell you how useful that has been for my fishing ever since.
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pvansch1 |
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Had a teacher in HS teach us that your non-dominant will follow your dominant hand. To prove this he had us write our names on the chalk board holding a piece
of chalk in each hand. For a lefty start with you hands apart and write together, Righties start together and write out. You should get a pretty close mirror
image.
Now do that with a fly rod in each hand concetrating on your dominant hand and letting the other follow along. Feels goofy at first, but you'll get some good casts out with both hands. Pete |
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leatherneck |
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I'm a lefty, although I bat, throw and golf right handed. No wonder my casting is such a mess!
"The rule is perfect: in all matters of
opinion our adversaries are insane."
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Boonut |
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I'm too dominant with my right side to do anything left handed. If I need a cast over my left shoulder I just reach over with my right hand.
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greendrake ll |
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Like BerryPoint I switch hit almost immediately upon starting to play baseball.Batting left handed is the only thing I was ever able to do left handed and I
did it very well.All my power though came when I batted right handed Very seldom hit one out from the left side but always hit .150-.200 points better from the
left hand side. My high school coach figured it was because my right eye was dominate and thats the one that picks up the ball first when standing in the left
hand batters box.If I can't cast to a trout with my right hand,he's safe, and I'll just mosey upstream til I find a fish that cooperates
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Bill Lambot |
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As one of the genetically gifted (a lefty), I am concerned with your use of the word "sinister", but I will move beyond that to a couple of comments
of my own.
The reason that I most often consider casting with my other hand (off side casting) is wind. When the wind is blowing from my left, I risk accidently casting the fly into my rod or into me. The wind pushes the moving line towards me. Once you drive a 1/0 Clouser into the back of your own head, you develope a new respect for the phrase "chuck and duck" and be advised that even a small fresh-water fly can snap off the tip of your fly rod with alarming finality. I describe this as the $300 false cast. What to do? Some casters simply turn their back to the target and cast backwards; thereby puting the line on their down-wind side. I can manage this (barely) but I give up some distance and more accuracy that I care to admit. Another solution is to tilt your rod about 45 degrees across your body, cast with you usual casting hand while throwing the line over your down wind (off side) shoulder. For me, this is a good compromise that I can manage out to medium distances with pretty good speed and accuracy. I can cast (and haul) as usual without the danger of an unplanned hook up. Some casters find that if they shift to their off hand and cast with their dominant hand over (clasped on top of) their weak hand, that their dominant hand leads the casting stroke and puts everything into order. Switching casting hands is a weird art.Casting instructors sometimes find they can "unblock" a beginner who is stuck on learning a new technique by having them try it with their off hand. I have no idea why this works, but it does. This was taught to me by a casting instructor who began his demo of controling your loop at the casting pool while casting with his left hand. Half way through the demonstration he quietly shifted the rod to his right (natural) hand and continued to throw perfectly controled casts. Enough said. Bill Lambot
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DrLogik |
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Both hands equally. It was a goal of mine at Joan Wulff's school after seeing one of her instructors cast with both. I told myself that I can do that to.
It took about a year of practicing virtually every day, but now either arm feels natural; however, when I pick the rod up initially, I still pick it up with my
right hand. When I got to the point that I could alernate my false-casts righty/lefty, I knew I was close. Then one day, as I was working with a
right-to-left wind I found myself casting with my left hand and don't remember consciously switching hands...it was then I realized if actually felt
comfortable either hand. It was one of those cool life moments when you do a "Ah -HAH!" to yourself. I think to get to the next level though,
I'll force myself to pick the rod up with my left hand.
Also had to learn how to shoot lefty because my left eye is my dominant eye. Shot .22 indoor match in college lefty but never got that comfortable feeling shooting lefty as I do casting a fly rod lefty.
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ZenCane |
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Look, there is only one real question here:
Do you reel with the same hand you cast, or do you do it correctly? For those with speakers, turn the volume down while AmazingWoody squeals. ZenCane |
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mac7x |
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No, the real question is:
Are you a traditional fly fisherman, who reels with his rod hand, or did you start out as a spin fisherman, and are you still one at heart?
I can understand wrong hand reeling by plastic rodders, who think that every change is an improvement, but in our stodgy, tradition steeped little segment of the sport, I confess that I don't get it. Of course, if I were a reel collector, I would want everyone else to reel left handed. |
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Berry Point |
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Well, I was afraid it might go there eventually............it's a slippery slope and probably a different poll.
When I cast naturally as a leftie I tend line and reel with my right hand--the traditional way but without having to switch hands to do it. When I cast right handed I switch the rod back to my left hand as soon as the fly is where I want it to be and still tend the line and reel with my right--the way traditional right handed casters who prefer RHW reels do. I'll bet a lot of both hand casting lefties do that. But I fear that one of these days my fly placement will be so well chosen and precise (yeah, right!! ) that a large fish will take at the moment I make the switch and the whole
kit and caboodle will go Sayonara down stream with the fish.
Reeling with your casting hand? What's that all about? It's fine for righties who have no choice, but are lefties supposed to switch hands after the cast and use LHW reels? The reason I'm sure most of us don't is that were ambidextrous enough not to have to.
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ZenCane |
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mac7x wrote: Spin fisherman? Nope, never tried it. Also don't look down on it. |
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